IBM Model M keyboard search

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phinix

08 Jan 2020, 15:29

Hi guys, I'm not sure what exact model I'm after, as I'm not an expert in those IBM keyboards, so wanted first ask you for advice.

I would like to buy one for myself, but wanted to ask what should I look for exactly - I know there were different versions of it etc
I would like to get a proper vintage version of it, but be able to use with modern PC .
I'm guessing IBM version would be the best, 1391401 series are popular, not Lexmark or Unicomp?
I was thinking of SSK, but not sure, maybe getting a full M version would be better.
White label, blue label series? One like this?

What should I look for? What to watch, be careful not to get, where to look for it?

Please let me know :D

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swampangel

08 Jan 2020, 16:09

It should be relatively easy to get a wiki/IBM_Enhanced_Keyboard#1391401 in good condition with a PS/2 cable.

Model Ms differ somewhat by year and place of manufacture. Generally older == heavier/sturdier.

My own favourite is a 1391401 from 1988 made in Mexico. I have an SSK from 1987 as well, and it's equally sturdy but the keys are noticeably stiffer.

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phinix

08 Jan 2020, 16:27

Is £180 a lot for 1987 white label screw-modded refurbished keyboard?

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adamcobabe

08 Jan 2020, 16:48

phinix wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:27
Is £180 a lot for 1987 white label screw-modded refurbished keyboard?
Kind of, yeah. Screw mod is the easier of the mods and arguably worse than the bolt mod IMHO. I bought a very early NOS square silver badge Model M for about that price. I'd recommend trying to find one of those. Basically, the older the better with most IBM keyboards. A little patience on eBay will work. Shipping to the UK is the only issue. So maybe it's a wash. :roll:

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swampangel

08 Jan 2020, 16:57

It sure sounds like a lot. Compare to what Redmaus is asking for rare NIB SSKs viewtopic.php?f=55&t=21975

I don't have a great idea what UK prices/availability are like, but I'd think you could get a decent Model M for £50-80 (see https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/com ... l_cable_w/, https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/com ... er_french/)

Fkazim

08 Jan 2020, 17:03

phinix wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:27
Is £180 a lot for 1987 white label screw-modded refurbished keyboard?
It depends is this screw modded Model M you have seen got an ISO layout with the £ sign basically is it a UK layout?
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phinix

08 Jan 2020, 17:04

I thought I could offer 180 for this one, but it sounds like really expensive?
I would prefer ANSI

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-IBM-Mod ... SwqMtdofQi

Fkazim

08 Jan 2020, 17:07

phinix wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 17:04
I thought I could offer 180 for this one, but it sounds like really expensive?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-IBM-Mod ... SwqMtdofQi
Its got an ANSI layout so I would say no but then again it is screw modded which is a time consuming and finicky job. On the other hand if it had an ISO layout it would probably be worth that as ISO is much rarer than ANSI. I would say offer something like £77 to £90 tops IMO.

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phinix

08 Jan 2020, 17:41

What about this one?

EDIT: other one rejected my offer of even £140 :roll:

anmq91

08 Jan 2020, 22:13

Tbh in the 200+ USD price range I would suggest you try to go for a Model F AT - if the layout is doable for you. I find it far superior to the model M's typing experience. SSK's are amazing but generally cost around 300 USD. For a normal model M I wouldn't go above 150 (if bolt modded). If stock then not over 60 USD. Your best bet is eBay and some patience :)

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phinix

09 Jan 2020, 14:42

anmq91 wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 22:13
Tbh in the 200+ USD price range I would suggest you try to go for a Model F AT - if the layout is doable for you. I find it far superior to the model M's typing experience. SSK's are amazing but generally cost around 300 USD. For a normal model M I wouldn't go above 150 (if bolt modded). If stock then not over 60 USD. Your best bet is eBay and some patience :)
Understood, thanks for reply.
F AT is not my fav layout, I prefer standard full layout. All my keyboards are TKLs, so for this one I wanted to have full rail :lol:
I will aim for white label M board.
I've seen Kishsaver once, amazing, heavy as hell - Muirium from our forum here met me once and showed his Kish - really cool board, but I prefer at least TKL size.
I'm not planning to spend more than $100 on it, so will keep an eye for one.

kelvinhall05

09 Jan 2020, 15:55

Keep in mind that if you want to save a lot of money you can buy a terminal keyboard and convert it with a $5 pro micro and my guide

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/11 ... m-model-m/

All you lose with a terminal board are lock lights, a PS/2 cable (although you'll be converting it internally to USB so it doesn't really matter), and normal keycaps (although I personally think the terminal ones look kick-ass). The only layout change is a split numpad plus key.

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ShivaYash

10 Jan 2020, 21:29

phinix wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 15:29
Hi guys, I'm not sure what exact model I'm after, as I'm not an expert in those IBM keyboards, so wanted first ask you for advice.

I would like to buy one for myself, but wanted to ask what should I look for exactly - I know there were different versions of it etc
I would like to get a proper vintage version of it, but be able to use with modern PC .
I'm guessing IBM version would be the best, 1391401 series are popular, not Lexmark or Unicomp?
I was thinking of SSK, but not sure, maybe getting a full M version would be better.
White label, blue label series? One like this?

What should I look for? What to watch, be careful not to get, where to look for it?

Please let me know :D
Keep an eye on Gumtree. I picked up a lovely Model M (ISO UK layout) for £20 not that long ago.

Rauha

10 Jan 2020, 22:31


kmnov2017

10 Jan 2020, 22:45

Local classifieds are the best place to look for these. You can get them for as low as 10/20 euros.

kmnov2017

10 Jan 2020, 22:46

Rauha wrote:
10 Jan 2020, 22:31
Unicomp, in UK layout from UK.

https://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp ... de&rtv=100
I intend to buy my Unicomp TKL/ SSK from them when they have them in a few months....

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Howard81

15 Jan 2020, 13:50

phinix wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 17:04
I thought I could offer 180 for this one, but it sounds like really expensive?
I would prefer ANSI

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-IBM-Mod ... SwqMtdofQi
I'm the seller for that.. it's a heavy early board (simlar in weight to the earlier silver badge model) in really lovely condition that has over 7 hours in it for the refubishing and screw mod. I think it had a new membrane in it too. I would be happy to take £180 for it if you want to buy it here rather than eBay (and that includes postage in the UK which is about £15. If you're in London I could also knock that off if you collect) :)

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phinix

17 Jan 2020, 15:45

Howard81 wrote:
15 Jan 2020, 13:50
phinix wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 17:04
I thought I could offer 180 for this one, but it sounds like really expensive?
I would prefer ANSI

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-IBM-Mod ... SwqMtdofQi
I'm the seller for that.. it's a heavy early board (simlar in weight to the earlier silver badge model) in really lovely condition that has over 7 hours in it for the refubishing and screw mod. I think it had a new membrane in it too. I would be happy to take £180 for it if you want to buy it here rather than eBay (and that includes postage in the UK which is about £15. If you're in London I could also knock that off if you collect) :)
Thanks for the offer, but like guys suggested here, I shouldn't go over $150 for modded one.
I understand that you spent a lot of time on modding it, I'm sure you will find a buyer for it.
For me it's just too much.

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