Double-Shot Sphericals for Cherry MX
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
This poll is about spherical key caps
In this group buy, Standard kits should be available as a complete kit or in parts, containing:
- 1 unit keys for 10-key less boards,
- numpad keys,
- function keys,
- modifiers,
Important: Keys larger than 1 unit are only available for row 3!
There is a limited availability of Space bars and big return keys.
In addition, there will be at least the following national layouts available:
AT, DE, DK, ES, FI, FR, IT, NO, SE, SI, Colemak, Dvorak, Mac, Win, ...
If you don't find your dream color, please suggest what you would like ...
In this group buy, Standard kits should be available as a complete kit or in parts, containing:
- 1 unit keys for 10-key less boards,
- numpad keys,
- function keys,
- modifiers,
Important: Keys larger than 1 unit are only available for row 3!
There is a limited availability of Space bars and big return keys.
In addition, there will be at least the following national layouts available:
AT, DE, DK, ES, FI, FR, IT, NO, SE, SI, Colemak, Dvorak, Mac, Win, ...
If you don't find your dream color, please suggest what you would like ...
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- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
In my opinion much better than cylindrical key caps!Grond wrote:I never tried typing on sphericals, I wonder how it feels?
I will get some samples from SP. Depending on you location I could send you some to try out for yourself.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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IMO that is a big myth, and cylindrical is better. Spherical is from the time of typewriters so you hit it in the middle with downward force, necessary for correct operation, and only slows you down in modern times where you can hit the key anyway you like. They provide a handicap. Old keyboards are better than modern rubber dome keyboards because of the switches, but spherical keycaps are worse than modern ones. I think they looked at the spherical keycap, thought of ways to improve upon that, and the result was cylindrical keycaps. I think the only reason the sphericals are glamored over is because people bump into them and say "wow, look at those cool looking old keycaps".
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Lasered or printed key caps are as good for typing as double shots!webwit wrote:IMO that is a big myth, and cylindrical is better. Spherical is from the time of typewriters so you hit it in the middle with downward force, necessary for correct operation, and only slows you down in modern times where you can hit the key anyway you like. They provide a handicap. Old keyboards are better than modern rubber dome keyboards because of the switches, but spherical keycaps are worse than modern ones. I think they looked at the spherical keycap, thought of ways to improve upon that, and the result was cylindrical keycaps. I think the only reason the sphericals are glamored over is because people bump into them and say "wow, look at those cool looking old keycaps".
The whole reason (except for special labels) why people buy these replacement key caps are the optics!
Beautiful things are not always practical. See your Datahand as in inverted example!
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Yes, but you said they feel much better.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Only with the Datahand. Which has spherical down keys. Which works because you don't have to move your fingers to other keys.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Just typed on the keys pictured below.webwit wrote:Only with the Datahand. Which has spherical down keys. Which works because you don't have to move your fingers to other keys.
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The only argument against is that it might be a bit more difficult to slide the fingers from one key to another, because they are more bumpy.
However, I will get some sample keys to fit the entire keybaord with spherical key caps from SP and will give them a try.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
- DT Pro Member: 0011
Are these going to be Signature Plastics "DSA" family, where all keys are the same profile? (except the space bar)
- Grond
- Location: Milan, Italy
- Main keyboard: Keychron K2
- Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
Sure, I'd like to give them a try! (I'm located in Italy). I actually like the way they look, but what I need is a set that's fine for daily use, not just a conversation piece.7bit wrote:
I will get some samples from SP. Depending on you location I could send you some to try out for yourself.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
They will be SA-profile. But DSA could be also possible. However, this poll is about key caps from the SA family.Findecanor wrote:Are these going to be Signature Plastics "DSA" family, where all keys are the same profile? (except the space bar)
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Great, so shipping costs are not problem. Just send me a riminder to send the caps over to you once I figured out myself if I like them.Grond wrote:Sure, I'd like to give them a try! (I'm located in Italy). I actually like the way they look, but what I need is a set that's fine for daily use, not just a conversation piece.7bit wrote:
I will get some samples from SP. Depending on you location I could send you some to try out for yourself.
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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
- DT Pro Member: -
Are these going to be the thick Novelty Key style or the Wimpy Modern style?
Top one is Cherry MX from Signature Plastics but I think they've run out of those. Should have the molds still.
Top one is Cherry MX from Signature Plastics but I think they've run out of those. Should have the molds still.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
The Double-Shot Sphericals for Cherry MX should be from the SA-family.ripster wrote:Are these going to be the thick Novelty Key style or the Wimpy Modern style?
Top one is Cherry MX from Signature Plastics but I think they've run out of those. Should have the molds still.
I think the novelty keys are from SA-family, too.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Very interesting keyboard!calavera wrote:I ran into this surfing the web, any takers?
Seems it is related to Symbolics keyboards. (Meta keys, backspace at the same place where the Symbolics keybaords have Rub Out etc.)
Do you know more about it?
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
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Great layout. Backspace on the caps lock location, how colemak!
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Except for APL stuff and color, I would buy it immediately!webwit wrote:Great layout. Backspace on the caps lock location, how colemak!
Maybe the gaps between CONTROL and space bar should be filled up with 2 extra 2-units keys.
Someone must find out what kind of keyboard this is!
@calavera: Where did you find it?
ps: The color of the keys look suspiciously like the Space Cadet Keyboard.
- webwit
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If it is related to LISP I'd be seriously interested in it.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
webwit wrote:If it is related to LISP I'd be seriously interested in it.
The longer I stare at this keyboard, the more I'm sure it is a keyboard from the Lisp/Symbolics culture.
There are ; and : as separate keys, but no quotation marks in sight!
Then the parenthesis on the [ ] keys.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
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- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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True. Give us more info!
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
I already pm'ed calavera.webwit wrote:True. Give us more info!
It is the Knight's keyboard ...
... little brother (or sister)[1]
[1] we need to look underneath the keyboard to tell for sure.
left side:BREAK, CLEAR, FORM, VT, SHIFT LOCK
Then the color. I bet it's the same!
Last edited by 7bit on 17 Apr 2011, 23:43, edited 2 times in total.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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The Knight Space Saving keyboard.