zrrion wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 18:48And for anyone wondering, you could get an FR4 plate and this PCB for what andj00 is charging if you organized a mini-group buy for it. (or bought extras from someone who did organize such a thing) You wouldn't have included shipping, but you'd have shipping for the plate anyway if you bought this PCB and got the plate separate and this way you're one part closer to having the build.
60% Alps PCBs (USB-C, VIA Support, Factory Soldered Diodes) + 60% FR4 Plates (AEK+TaiHao)
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so, i decided to go game this out to see if it was as easy and cheap as youse were all making out - and it's not at all that. you're all conveniently missing the stage where you have to take a BOM that's just a table in a markdown file and turn that into a BOM that a PCB manufacturer will take and also placement files to get your components soldered in the right places - i am obviously not going to spend time doing this cause i'm not actually in the market for a PCB but pretending that this is like "hey mate download a zip file and press go it's easy" just isn't true at all.
so yeah i don't doubt you could get something cheaper if you do a bunch of legwork yourself but i could make my own clothes for cheaper than i could buy them in a store, but i don't do that because i don't have the skills or the time to do it. this seems like a similar situation. maybe this product is not for you, but i am still failing to see why this is such an affront to all of your sensibilities. could it be cause you all have a hateboner for andj?
personally, i can't wait for a state-owned enterprise to churn out keyboard parts for me after the revolution but until then, dogpiling on someone providing a service for people less able than you to go do it themselves seems like gatekeeping the hobby to me.
so yeah i don't doubt you could get something cheaper if you do a bunch of legwork yourself but i could make my own clothes for cheaper than i could buy them in a store, but i don't do that because i don't have the skills or the time to do it. this seems like a similar situation. maybe this product is not for you, but i am still failing to see why this is such an affront to all of your sensibilities. could it be cause you all have a hateboner for andj?
personally, i can't wait for a state-owned enterprise to churn out keyboard parts for me after the revolution but until then, dogpiling on someone providing a service for people less able than you to go do it themselves seems like gatekeeping the hobby to me.
i also read this as "you could pay the same amount and do lots more legwork for no particular reason other than i don't like the person who's selling it to you and i don't think you should either"zrrion wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 18:48>implying any reasonable adult wouldn't already be a communistif you don't like the system maybe idk join a communist party or something instead of shouting at one man on the internet
And for anyone wondering, you could get an FR4 plate and this PCB for what andj00 is charging if you organized a mini-group buy for it. (or bought extras from someone who did organize such a thing) You wouldn't have included shipping, but you'd have shipping for the plate anyway if you bought this PCB and got the plate separate and this way you're one part closer to having the build.
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Who said I don't like them? They're a terrible vendor IMO, but when they actually talk about use and enjoyment of keyboards they're cool. You shouldn't buy it because its a bad value.
How does this pan out to andj's listing being a bad value? Based off what you said, sounds like to me the alternative is paying the same amount and doing a bunch of work finding 4 other people and faffing around with PCB manufacturers yourself.
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Update: AEK Plates now back in stock! (links & images added for FR4 AEK + TaiHao Alps Plates)
thanks to everyone for the support!
thanks to everyone for the support!
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Bump!
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Bump!
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bump!
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bump - AEK Plates back in stock and now revised for universal support across both AEK and Matias stabilizers (even on right shift!)
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Bump - Revised PCBs stocked!
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New plate added for DCS Alps from SP with Cherry Stabilizer support.
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New plate added for WKL Alps layouts (SGI, Dell, etc)
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Thanks for making this it was exactly what I needed for my build.KeebMeUp wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 02:02New plate added for WKL Alps layouts (SGI, Dell, etc)
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Any consideration for TKL PCB and Plates for the future?
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