BTW, contrary to what some would have you believe, the XT works great as a daily driver
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I told the shop lady my money was spent.
I ask her for credit, she answered me "Nay,
such a custom as yours I can have any day."
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Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 10:45
by Muirium
169 Euros is a fair price for a nice XT. Buy it now indeed.
The XT was my first mech and a daily for a year or two back when I first joined DT. Definitely doable, as long as you dedicate yourself to typing on that one keyboard instead of a rotation. The layout is different enough to need acclimating to, and only really feels right when it’s second nature.
Besides the layout, they’re top notch boards. Highly recommended. You’ll never touch a Model M again.
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 11:47
by Icarium
You must have done some wild remapping to make that lack of bottom row keys work on a daily driver.
############################################
# Special IBM PC/XT only layout definition #
############################################
ifset set1
remapblock
layer 0
f9 rctrl # Claim bottom function keys for left mods
f10 lalt
lalt lgui
pad_asterix fn1 # The vital HHKB style Fn key
caps_lock rgui
“Asterix” was my original trainer for HHKB fn and navigation layer. Besides that, it’s really just using the extra keys to the left as modifiers, as they should be. That’s a trick I still use on my weirder still beamspring.
You must have done some wild remapping to make that lack of bottom row keys work on a daily driver.
Not really actually I mean, you have LCtrl, LAlt and you can map CapsLock to RAlt. What more do you need?
Then you can easily find a spot for a layer key using tap/hold logic, and then do all the creative layer shit you can think of I even often eschew the mouse and just use the mouse key layer on my XT.
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:56
by Icarium
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 20:13
by Bjerrk
The Windows key is only slightly more useful than the Windows operating system
I found it a lot easier when I realized Ctrl+Escape opens up the Start menu.
Still no convenient stuff like Windows+D for show desktop though
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 13:49
by Rezene
Ive dailied a f xt for about 3 years, and it was no issue. Simply bind backslash to windows, asterix or caps lock for function, make ` ~ return, and i type just like any ansi board
[…] Indeed everybody happily threw away their keyboards and bought new ones when a new key effecting nothing else than Ctrl+Esc (aka Winkey) was introduced.
If you’re selling at an attractive rate. In olden times (especially pre-Soarer) ATs were simply priced too highly and automatically ignored by most of us. XT was the working man’s Model F.
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 13 Oct 2022, 21:23
by zrrion
I wish this site had proper moderation and offtopic posts like most of this thread got split into their own threads.
Anyway, I have an XT but I only ship inside the US because I'm lazy. if you have a proxy willing to forward to you LMK and we can work something out
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 13 Oct 2022, 21:31
by Muirium
What’s so offtopic about any of the posts on this thread? They’re almost all about the XT as a keyboard. (And those which aren’t are about the Windows key, which isn’t so wildly unrelated.) I don’t see anything needing moderating.
DT would be a sleepy place if the only posts allowed were offers of XT keyboards as requested. This thread would likely just consist of OP posting the word “bump” 2-12 times before they got lucky (which they hopefully have, with your offer or maybe Icarium’s implied one) or gave up.
Found this, judging by the last sentence the seller seems to be an Anglosaxon of some sort
The VB means that the price is negotiable. Maybe you get it for cheaper than 200, or make some kind of deal regarding the shipping fees, but imo the one that Bjerrk posted is a better deal.
I mean, did you ever use anything close to XT or AT before, 0xcf? If you think you can handle the somewhat strange layout, I also can absolutely recommend this board. Stellar build quality, exceptional key feel, and so on. It has been my daily for almost two years before I got sucked deeper into the hobby.
What? Do you have a picture? This makes no sense to me.
I hope im understanding what you mean properly, basically just the `~ key is where the enter key typically is on ANSI so my muscle memory was reaching for that key instead of enter. So i just remapped it to enter so now i cant typo anymore.
i am looking to get a F XT that has been tested to work, would require shipping to the UK.
Been trying to acquire one after getting and using a mini m and membrane buckling springs.
Not a collector, the board will be lovingly used daily
If your still looking i have xt and at for sale. Open for offers. They are on for sale side of market place. And i just added some price from from few searches...
Re: [WTB][UK-EU] IBM F XT
Posted: 22 May 2023, 18:34
by Scarpia
I’ve got an F XT for sale too - I can do €200 plus shipping, but I’m in Sweden so shipping will cost a pretty penny of course.
I even often eschew the mouse and just use the mouse key layer on my XT.
) enter key?