May I ask what switches does the videoton VDN board come with? I'm thinking SKCC but possible futaba MD and some early cherry variants also.dovenyi wrote: ↑21 Sep 2022, 14:19I arranged my keyboards residing in the attic for a photo shoot:
List of keyboards in the photo.
Post your keyboard/keycaps!
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
I received the new alps cubic profile caps from Tai-Hai and I’m impressed. They included caps compatible with vintage boards including ISO profiles. You might notice my sets only have a big ass enter. I’m not sure if this is because I put Focus FK-2001 as my keyboard in my order but I’m glad they did, but most of my alps boards have a BAE. Only my Dell AT-101 has a “normal” enter.
They also included a shorter shift key for Focus keyboards along with the 1U “| \” key. I plan on installing this onto one of my Focus or Northgate boards and will post on the compatibility but I know it’s missing a 1U “=“ and “+” key needed for the numpad on my Omnikey 102. I also need to check the space bar length and I’m not sure what I’ll do with the F13 key! Worst case I can contact Tai-Hao and see if I can separately order keys.
Black double shot set: Normal double shot set: Bonus gifts!
The blue switch is lighter and sounds/feels nice. The white switch is very heavy and I’m guessing meant for a space bar.
They also included a shorter shift key for Focus keyboards along with the 1U “| \” key. I plan on installing this onto one of my Focus or Northgate boards and will post on the compatibility but I know it’s missing a 1U “=“ and “+” key needed for the numpad on my Omnikey 102. I also need to check the space bar length and I’m not sure what I’ll do with the F13 key! Worst case I can contact Tai-Hao and see if I can separately order keys.
Black double shot set: Normal double shot set: Bonus gifts!
The blue switch is lighter and sounds/feels nice. The white switch is very heavy and I’m guessing meant for a space bar.
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- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: OmniKey 102
- Favorite switch: Tie between Blue Alps and SMK Cherry
I'm using this flimsy piece of shit
![Image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/639302937520111627/1023663053990006794/unknown.png)
For real though I love white SMK cherry mount so much.
Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the blank key on the left opposite the backslash actually outputs a different scancode (EUROPE_2) than the backslash so I've remapped it to windows key (LGUI) on my soarer's
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For real though I love white SMK cherry mount so much.
Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the blank key on the left opposite the backslash actually outputs a different scancode (EUROPE_2) than the backslash so I've remapped it to windows key (LGUI) on my soarer's
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
I ordered them from these links:
https://shop.tai-hao.com/products/abs-104-a01black
https://shop.tai-hao.com/products/abs-104-a01bp201-1-1
This link has all of their alps stuff:
https://shop.tai-hao.com/categories/alps-keycaps
I paid ~$55 for each set (~$110 total) shipped to me in the USA. Shipping was surprisingly only a couple days. But is large portion of the cost.
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
Is the build quality pretty bad on those? I was looking at this one and it seemed flimsy from other reviews:Meowmaritus wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 20:36I'm using this flimsy piece of shit![]()
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For real though I love white SMK cherry mount so much.
Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the blank key on the left opposite the backslash actually outputs a different scancode (EUROPE_2) than the backslash so I've remapped it to windows key (LGUI) on my soarer's
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134246823593
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- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: OmniKey 102
- Favorite switch: Tie between Blue Alps and SMK Cherry
chyros said it best on this timestamp https://youtu.be/m5S4F03C-zc?t=856thefarside wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 20:55Is the build quality pretty bad on those? I was looking at this one and it seemed flimsy from other reviews:Meowmaritus wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 20:36I'm using this flimsy piece of shit![]()
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For real though I love white SMK cherry mount so much.
Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the blank key on the left opposite the backslash actually outputs a different scancode (EUROPE_2) than the backslash so I've remapped it to windows key (LGUI) on my soarer's
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134246823593
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- Location: Hungary
- Main keyboard: Azimuth, S.Torm46
- Favorite switch: Momoka Frogs
- Contact:
Sorry for the late answer. Micro USA 4B3S: wiki/Micro_Switch_SD_Series
- doomsday_device
- Location: Germany
- Favorite switch: alps
my first time with nipples and against my thoughts beforehand about topre i really, really like it.
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lovely
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- doomsday_device
- Location: Germany
- Favorite switch: alps
it took me some hours but ive aligned by now, its not too much of a deal imo. i think the tiny spacebar took more time to get used to
but i change keyboards so often and through various layouts that i might be not as fixated on a certain layout
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- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Yeah, I mix it up a bit with loooooooooong spacebar AT and even more offbeat beamspring, but I daily (ANSI) HHKB so that’s my jam. Plus the HHKB-style Kishsaver gets more use than my other IBMs combined, because it’s freaking awesome in every dimension.
Don’t have anything with non-standard stagger, so do wonder about its effect. I don’t miss homing bumps too much on Model F, but that same positional muscle memory may work against me for altered rows.
If I tried an HHKB JP, I’m sure what would bug me most of all is the delightful little spacebar not lying on my habitual spot beneath N and M. That would demand a lot of adaptation.
Don’t have anything with non-standard stagger, so do wonder about its effect. I don’t miss homing bumps too much on Model F, but that same positional muscle memory may work against me for altered rows.
If I tried an HHKB JP, I’m sure what would bug me most of all is the delightful little spacebar not lying on my habitual spot beneath N and M. That would demand a lot of adaptation.
- doomsday_device
- Location: Germany
- Favorite switch: alps
i really cant type ansi at all so jis is the perfect spot between at and iso layout for me.
dont think i would have fallen in love if this was an ansi one actually hehe
dont think i would have fallen in love if this was an ansi one actually hehe
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- Location: Germany (RLP)
- Main keyboard: KBD8X MKII e-yellow w/ Laserons
- Main mouse: Roccat Kain 202 Aimo weiß
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX linear grey
- DT Pro Member: -
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Totally agree! What bothers is the yellowing of the case, why I swapped my own Pro JP into an PSD60 aluminium case.
A little mod guide from less than 500 grams to 1.4 kilogram:
https://imgur.com/a/MJi9ecl
- doomsday_device
- Location: Germany
- Favorite switch: alps
great execution!
personally i find the yellowing to be quite charming.
how does it sound in such a dense brick?
personally i find the yellowing to be quite charming.
how does it sound in such a dense brick?
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Sound will always be different with a profoundly different case. Metal cases tend to bring out the noise, every time I’ve used them. The stock HHKB shell is very quiet, without noticeable reverb. I’d expect a kilogram of metal replacement to be distinctly different.
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- Location: Germany (RLP)
- Main keyboard: KBD8X MKII e-yellow w/ Laserons
- Main mouse: Roccat Kain 202 Aimo weiß
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX linear grey
- DT Pro Member: -
No, it won't because these are not MX switches. There is no change to the mounting system, the PCB is still screwed to the plate. Springs, domes and silencing rings are in original condition. Slider are Deskeys. I heard the sound of the plastic case with my own ears, rebuilt the board by myself and I hear how it sounds now. There is no difference.
- TNT
- Location: Germany, Karlsruhe
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F77 / Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy
- Favorite switch: It's complicated
- DT Pro Member: 0250
While the caps are a little too flamboyant for my taste, that's an impressive case mod you did there. Very nice!ITX-Fan wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 15:19Totally agree! What bothers is the yellowing of the case, why I swapped my own Pro JP into an PSD60 aluminium case.
A little mod guide from less than 500 grams to 1.4 kilogram:
https://imgur.com/a/MJi9ecl
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- Location: Germany (RLP)
- Main keyboard: KBD8X MKII e-yellow w/ Laserons
- Main mouse: Roccat Kain 202 Aimo weiß
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX linear grey
- DT Pro Member: -
Thanks. That's right, the keycaps are just a temporary solution for now. There is no replacement for the 2.5u spacebar so it will have to be a gray keycap set. I'm going to try out XMI Handarbeige from KBNordic.
- sharktastica
- Location: Wales
- Main keyboard: '86 IBM F Bigfoot + '96 IBM M50
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Revolution
- Favorite switch: Cap B/S, BOX Navy
- Contact:
Recently took a lot of Model M13 photos for site content and here's some of them.
1995 OPTIONS by IBM pearl white M13 - P/N 92G7461:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_92G7461_lexmark.jpg)
1997 OPTIONS by IBM raven black M13 - P/N 13H6705:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_13H6705_ibm.jpg)
1998 industrial grey M13 - P/N 06H4173:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_06H4173_unicomp.jpg)
2004 TotalStorage 3494 M13 - P/N 18P7970:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_18P7970_unicomp.jpg)
1995 OPTIONS by IBM pearl white M13 - P/N 92G7461:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_92G7461_lexmark.jpg)
1997 OPTIONS by IBM raven black M13 - P/N 13H6705:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_13H6705_ibm.jpg)
1998 industrial grey M13 - P/N 06H4173:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_06H4173_unicomp.jpg)
2004 TotalStorage 3494 M13 - P/N 18P7970:
![Image](https://sharktastica.co.uk/resources/images/model_ms/shark_18P7970_unicomp.jpg)
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
I didn’t realize IBM branded buckling spring keyboards were still being made in 2004. Makes me curious what the last year of an IBM labeled buckling spring keyboard is.
- sharktastica
- Location: Wales
- Main keyboard: '86 IBM F Bigfoot + '96 IBM M50
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Revolution
- Favorite switch: Cap B/S, BOX Navy
- Contact:
It's a very specific non-PC release, for IBM TotalStorage 3494 Tape Library. I haven't tried removing the stick itself although by the looks of it you probably could.
2004 seems the be the last year where IBM-branded Unicomps can be found in any notable 'numbers'. Usually, it's very late M4-1s or 122-key Model Ms like this 2004 P/N 1394124. webwit has an SSK they bought from Unicomp that's "Assembled... For International Business Machines" from 2007.thefarside wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 01:58I didn’t realize IBM branded buckling spring keyboards were still being made in 2004. Makes me curious what the last year of an IBM labeled buckling spring keyboard is.
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: F77 and IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Ducky Feather and Secret M
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
Hello,
I want to introduce me with my two setups.
First my keyboard I use on my work setup when I am in my homeoffice, a german layout F77 and a Ducky Secret mice.
Model F Keyboard by Maijah, auf Flickr
And second my F77 in industrial grey that I use a my Gaming keyboard, also german layout but with some US style keykaps. Here I use a Ducky Feather mice in combination.
Model F Keyboard by Maijah
My third setup is a 1987 IBM Model M that I use in the office at work.
I want to introduce me with my two setups.
First my keyboard I use on my work setup when I am in my homeoffice, a german layout F77 and a Ducky Secret mice.
![Image](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52528256647_9351bd7ae5_h.jpg)
And second my F77 in industrial grey that I use a my Gaming keyboard, also german layout but with some US style keykaps. Here I use a Ducky Feather mice in combination.
![Image](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52528256632_73dd41ad54_h.jpg)
My third setup is a 1987 IBM Model M that I use in the office at work.
Last edited by Maijah on 28 Nov 2022, 10:40, edited 1 time in total.
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
Very nice! I especially like the old school windows logo.
- engr
- Location: USA
I finally managed to find a set of Alps keycaps with Hebrew sublegends! They originally belonged to an old Ortek MCK-201, which I didn't really want. I asked the seller if he would be willing to sell just the keycaps, and he agreed. The keycaps will need some retrobrighting, but otherwise are in good shape, no shine at all. I may eventually install them on my Chicony with SMK switches, which has the same layout as the MCK-201.
Here's what the keycaps look like on an Omnikey 101 (also shown is a DC-2214 with Hebrew and Cyrillic language stickers):
Here's what the keycaps look like on an Omnikey 101 (also shown is a DC-2214 with Hebrew and Cyrillic language stickers):
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