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orihalcon

23 Jul 2017, 03:54

mike52787 wrote:
Gnohio wrote: Here is what I think is a Model F AT with some cool alternate printing on a bunch of the alpha caps.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Black-L ... 1438.l2649
should be OG APL keycaps.
I'm leaning towards unicomp caps on this one. the AT should have one piece caps if they were original, should it not?

The way I usually tell is that original APL caps have "APL" on the front face of the backspace key, which they could do to a 1U backspace I would think. Also, anyone ever seen an APL AT Model F?

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

23 Jul 2017, 05:25

orihalcon wrote:
mike52787 wrote: I'm leaning towards unicomp caps on this one. the AT should have one piece caps if they were original, should it not?

The way I usually tell is that original APL caps have "APL" on the front face of the backspace key, which they could do to a 1U backspace I would think. Also, anyone ever seen an APL AT Model F?
I thought this too, but apparently subcat's f122 that had OG APL caps on it were also two-piece caps.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

23 Jul 2017, 08:50

88Teo88 wrote:
kbdfr wrote:
88Teo88 wrote: ohh yes ... :) you are so miserable kbdfr :)
ohh yes and you was the sherlock...the fake sherlock.... jealous and miserable
Fortunately there are normal people as well
it was a big problem for your jealous hearth right? (triumph adler for $1259)
and now here is the sau and it is a big problem for you :) ohh man :)
It's always the same with you crooks: you cheat, and when you get caught you bark at those who found out :lol:

please tell me, what did I cheat? I raised my ebay limit... that's what happened (OMG im a big.. not big.. the biggest cheater...:DD, but i said that.. i was always honest...), and i sold a keyboard, and you? I read at least 1000 pages from this site (because i was a beginner, u know...:) ) and what I've seen... you want to be a hero... but you aren't, just a pharisaical and jealous man
you know it was just a joke of course :) i love you my sweet
Thank you for confirming my point:
kbdfr wrote: […] It's always the same with you crooks: you cheat, and when you get caught you bark at those who found out :lol:

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

23 Jul 2017, 08:59

photekq wrote:
MrDuul wrote: I don't have time to adjust barrels on keyboards nor do I give a shit LOL. If someone can do it for me I will gladly pay them. I have the kishsaver man end of story.

Dude you are just jealous, geez. Where is your rich Saudi dad? Ohhhh you don't got one. You bore me man. […]
Money can't buy you a brain, ya fuckin unbearable gobshite.
Hi photekq, we've all been missing you and your wisdom :lol:

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

23 Jul 2017, 09:01

And MrDuul, did you miss my suggestion?
kbdfr wrote:
MrDuul wrote: got big hands and big wallet.

bigly.
Then I would suggest you take one of the expensive things you bought and raffle it as a giveaway here on DT.
It won’t hurt you as you can replace it anytime with no effort,
but it could reduce the contempt you have earned by incessantly showing off your wealth.

Besides, it would boost your ego - and that obviously is your primary driver :lol:

dede4metal

23 Jul 2017, 12:07

I came here to read about interesting new finds not someone arguing, could I kindly ask you to stop it? It's really distracting. Thanks!

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seebart
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23 Jul 2017, 13:17

photekq wrote:
seebart wrote: Oh photekq, good to see you around my friend. The PM I sent you is obsolete now, I sold the 2100 HCD for a good price.
Hey seebart, nice to see you! Yeah, sorry about that, I've missed quite a lot of PMs :oops:
No problem, sometimes we miss your Cherry expertise here, but by now most of us are pretty versed in the Cherry codes!
dede4metal wrote: I came here to read about interesting new finds not someone arguing, could I kindly ask you to stop it? It's really distracting. Thanks!
Yes you have a very valid point and there is nothing wrong with mentioning it. The fact that our admin does not appear to take notice is another story... :roll:

martink

23 Jul 2017, 13:42

//gainsborough wrote:
orihalcon wrote:
mike52787 wrote: I'm leaning towards unicomp caps on this one. the AT should have one piece caps if they were original, should it not?

The way I usually tell is that original APL caps have "APL" on the front face of the backspace key, which they could do to a 1U backspace I would think. Also, anyone ever seen an APL AT Model F?
I thought this too, but apparently subcat's f122 that had OG APL caps on it were also two-piece caps.
The keycaps on that AT may be transplanted F122 OG APL caps. It's got the double comma/double period legends instead of <, and >. and logical not on 6 instead of ^ as well as a !/cent sign cap.

The APL alpha label on the A cap doesn't look like Unicomp's alpha either.

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seebart
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23 Jul 2017, 23:43

martink wrote: The keycaps on that AT may be transplanted F122 OG APL caps. It's got the double comma/double period legends instead of <, and >. and logical not on 6 instead of ^ as well as a !/cent sign cap.

The APL alpha label on the A cap doesn't look like Unicomp's alpha either.
That makes sense. The AT looks great with those keycaps though.

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JP!

24 Jul 2017, 01:56

That AT went a little cheaper than I thought it would go given the high prices of AT keyboards lately.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

24 Jul 2017, 08:03

JP! wrote: That AT went a little cheaper than I thought it would go given the high prices of AT keyboards lately.
Prices for Cherry SAUs also seem to be constantly falling,
only 208.03€ (=$242.50) for 88Teo88's sale:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/122597784267

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E3E

24 Jul 2017, 17:25

The price is a bit ridiculous on a lot of things lately. It would be nice to see prices fall a little bit.

Engicoder

24 Jul 2017, 17:48

E3E wrote: The price is a bit ridiculous on a lot of things lately. It would be nice to see prices fall a little bit.
This one suprised me a bit: $228 for an NMB Erase Eaze. Granted its NIB, but still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122600198507

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Harshmallow

24 Jul 2017, 18:59

Engicoder wrote:
E3E wrote: The price is a bit ridiculous on a lot of things lately. It would be nice to see prices fall a little bit.
This one suprised me a bit: $228 for an NMB Erase Eaze. Granted its NIB, but still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122600198507
Yeah I saw that too - I think people just got carried away by the fact that it doesn't show up often. That board should never be worth that much. Bidding wars sometimes have interesting results I guess!

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E3E

24 Jul 2017, 19:26

Engicoder wrote:
E3E wrote: The price is a bit ridiculous on a lot of things lately. It would be nice to see prices fall a little bit.
This one suprised me a bit: $228 for an NMB Erase Eaze. Granted its NIB, but still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122600198507
I guess nothing is safe from insane prices these days. :shock:

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seebart
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24 Jul 2017, 21:56

Engicoder wrote:
E3E wrote: The price is a bit ridiculous on a lot of things lately. It would be nice to see prices fall a little bit.
This one suprised me a bit: $228 for an NMB Erase Eaze. Granted its NIB, but still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122600198507
Ridiculous. :| :x

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JP!

25 Jul 2017, 00:25

That is a nice keyboard though. I really want one of these NMB Erase Eaze boards. I wouldn't mind paying a little more than $100 for a board like this, especially since I have a small NMB collection. I missed one that sold recently for like $50 (slightly different but used without box).

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Harshmallow

25 Jul 2017, 00:39

Right, but near $230 is quite a bit more than $100. $100 would have been more reasonable for that NIB board.

orihalcon

25 Jul 2017, 02:50

For those that need a solenoid and a unique model F:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182634340786

Can be restored as well, but requires an adapter PCB for the Xwhatsit. I have these available if needed. Keycaps are also kind of unique on these, however, if you are interested in just the caps, PM me as well as I have some complete keycap sets available.

Also, BEAMSPRING :)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182684325678

Last one he had went for $520 shipped or so:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182646446285

Looks to be in nice shape!

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Sangdrax

25 Jul 2017, 16:36

xwhatsit compatible solenoids for $10

Found a good replacement for the standard beamspring/model F/model C solenoid that's cheap and works perfectly with a couple minor mods.

Best first thing about it is that it has an adjustable throw. Default is around 4mm or 5mm. But with a couple minutes with a dremel or rat tail you can elongate the adjustable channels to shorten it to whatever you want. I put it about at 1.5mm to give some space for a second small mod you'll need. But you can change it to whatever you like yourself.

Resistance is almost exactly the same as the the ibm solenoids so you don't need any extra power resistors. Connector is the same pitch too.

For the center plunger, you'll need to remove the washer it comes with just so it doesn't rattle. Replace it with an O-ring to silence it on the return stroke and keep it from double tapping against the frame. You can use normal thick soft keyboard O rings for this. This further reduces the stroke so be sure to account for it when you put it all back together.

It has a brass plate mount that can be bolted, taped, or glued to any substrate. In more cramped keyboards, you'll probably need to take a few minutes and cut the flanges off of it.

That's it though. No fuss no muss and sounds good. Outside the cases, they sound basically identical when I tested both with a 9V battery. What you hear in the video is basically acoustics of the cases and linear versus beamspring. You can also set the timings a tad lower since the modern one uses better magnets. The solenoid itself is basically the same size, but the frame is bigger on the new one as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/0837L-06C20-6V- ... 1967978003

https://www.dropbox.com/s/avfahxa7icbrk ... t.mp4?dl=0

hypkx
Chasing the Dream

25 Jul 2017, 17:23

So it is possible to just connect the two cables from the solenoid to the solenoid controller board and use it? (after the small changes)

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Sangdrax

25 Jul 2017, 17:33

Yep, just plugs right in.

hypkx
Chasing the Dream

25 Jul 2017, 17:39

Thanks, that means my SSK and my IBM F AT will soon get a clicker.

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JP!

25 Jul 2017, 18:10

Thanks for sharing that. Soon, a bunch of louder, clicky keyboards :lol:
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hypkx
Chasing the Dream

25 Jul 2017, 20:36

In one month when I got the solenoid, I will post a workshop for it, if someone is interested.

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Elrick

26 Jul 2017, 02:48

hypkx wrote: In one month when I got the solenoid, I will post a workshop for it, if someone is interested.
PLEASE do it with lots of detailed photos showing the process. This would be for the totally incompetent here, which would be ME.

It shall be nice having this available as a How-To activity, to further encourage others to join the IBM "F" craze :D .

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Elrick

26 Jul 2017, 02:58

After watching that video, it kind of sounds like those old telex machines that we used in the 70's and early 80's. Exact sound pitch that has disappeared forever until now. Thank you for making this a reality in the 21st Century.

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Wingklip

26 Jul 2017, 04:21


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chip chop

26 Jul 2017, 12:15


Findecanor

26 Jul 2017, 13:09

Wingklip wrote: Model M2 brand new up for offers
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-IBM-by-L ... 2422303314
Heh. Unused M2's are the ones least likely to work. Should not cost more than $30 either way.

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