Great/Interesting Finds

xxhellfirexx

04 Jan 2021, 18:26

kelvinhall05 wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 13:05
FLS is overrated as fuck, almost all the boards have awful protocols that and terrible layouts so you have to map the matrix and use QMK, and on top of that the switches aren't even that good and have a weird force curve and weighting.

Chyros praised them, hence the stupid prices lmao. I would pick space invaders or linear Alps any fucking day.
This board will work out of the box and has a usable layout although this one is overpriced by about $100.
The switches have light actuation with a stiffer bottoming out force similar to NEC blue ovals making great for key spamming. It's okay for typing on if a bit on the light side. It's quite smooth, but the 1.25 unit keys have a bit of binding without additional lube.

It is purely based on preferences. I like the sound of space invaders, but the switches are a bit on the stiff side (typing on one right now), making it not so suitable for typing long paragraphs.

Findecanor

04 Jan 2021, 18:30

kelvinhall05 wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 13:05
FLS is overrated as fuck, [...] the switches aren't even that good and have a weird force curve and weighting.
Mind you, there were three generations of them. The Wiki lists all three as "very smooth" which is not true.

kelvinhall05

04 Jan 2021, 19:03

Findecanor wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 18:30
kelvinhall05 wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 13:05
FLS is overrated as fuck, [...] the switches aren't even that good and have a weird force curve and weighting.
Mind you, there were three generations of them. The Wiki lists all three as "very smooth" which is not true.
Yeah they aren't any smoother than any other decent linear, and they are as sensitive to dust as Alps but way harder to clean. I was unable to remove the sliders from the barrels on my 3rd gen board so even after too much time in an ultrasonic it felt like an mx red.

vdublove37

04 Jan 2021, 19:20

I purchased an FLS 2nd gen. board recently, and can see where the smoothness used to be, but they were much more used than I thought based on the eBay pictures. Some scratchiness present for sure on the alpha keys, but the lesser used ones were pretty smooth.

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Noobmaen

04 Jan 2021, 19:22

Not all FLS "gen 3" are equal either. They come in varying degrees of tactility/clickyness and also different weightings.

The ones in my Omron F300k for example feel horrible to me, the force curve is similar to Cherry MY and the sound and bottom out feeling is similarly bad.
Wheras ones in my HP 46020A have a less spongy feel while still being very light and weakly tactile, but audibly clickier.
The variant used in my Fujitsu n860 2500 is a bit heavier and more tactile.

Out of all of them the omron is also the roughest feeling, especially on off center key press, even though it was NOS. It is also the newest and most cheaply made board of the three, in fact appears to be very similar to the tandy 3000 and FKB 4700 in case styling and construction.

John Doe

05 Jan 2021, 00:39

Noobmaen wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 19:22
Wheras ones in my HP 46020A have a less spongy feel while still being very light and weakly tactile, but audibly clickier.
I have a hp 46010a with fls switches, but never came across 46020a, mind to share a photo of the kbd showing this?

Lekrafter

07 Jan 2021, 00:09


Riptide666

07 Jan 2021, 16:42

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Lekrafter wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 00:09
Interesting

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224171925218

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inmbolmie

07 Jan 2021, 17:36

Riptide666 wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 16:42
Mmmm, that reminds me of something...

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Riptide666

07 Jan 2021, 20:45

Indeed! 8-)
inmbolmie wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 17:36
Riptide666 wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 16:42
Mmmm, that reminds me of something...


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John Doe

09 Jan 2021, 13:25

https://www.ebay.com/itm/333851287571/

MicroSwitch SD board with 4-terminal pins sensors, curious about its convertibility to USB interface.

Slom

09 Jan 2021, 14:44

John Doe wrote:
09 Jan 2021, 13:25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333851287571/

MicroSwitch SD board with 4-terminal pins sensors, curious about its convertibility to USB interface.
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m_raggie

09 Jan 2021, 18:06


mindgame

09 Jan 2021, 19:01

Cyrillic aek reserved.
M122 has silkscreen third party legends, worn off very fast, don't buy it.

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hellothere

09 Jan 2021, 23:07

mindgame wrote:
09 Jan 2021, 19:01
Cyrillic aek reserved.
So far, $67. That's a good price.

xxhellfirexx

10 Jan 2021, 22:54


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hellothere

10 Jan 2021, 23:04

xxhellfirexx wrote:
10 Jan 2021, 22:54
Erase-eaze keyboard

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114599578178
Had to double-check to make sure it wasn't the same one I listed a few week back. Nope. Nice find, xxhellfirexx.

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TNT

11 Jan 2021, 15:43

Riptide666 wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 16:42
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Lekrafter wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 00:09
Interesting

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224171925218
Why are you posting porn on a non NSFW forum?
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digital_matthew

11 Jan 2021, 18:37

Looks like fun:
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Jan Pospisil

11 Jan 2021, 18:41

digital_matthew wrote:
11 Jan 2021, 18:37
Looks like fun:
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I have the keyboard. The case is pretty bad - light, creaky and flexes a lot (had to put in reinforcing rubber columns), but the caps are oddly non-yellowed doubleshots (compared to the case) and the switches white pine Alps.

edit: OK, not the exact same keyboard. But also PCIII, just with a different layout. (fewer keys, bigass enter etc.)
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Riptide666

11 Jan 2021, 19:24

Lmao
TNT wrote:
11 Jan 2021, 15:43
Riptide666 wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 16:42
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Lekrafter wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 00:09
Interesting

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224171925218
Why are you posting porn on a NSFW forum?

Johnbo

12 Jan 2021, 18:12

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324449990660

Did this guy just dip the sliders of some Matias Clicks into blue paint and call them "Canada Blue" switches?

Jan Pospisil

12 Jan 2021, 18:40

That's amazing. I'll buy the whole stock.

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wadeak78

13 Jan 2021, 07:22

That description has left me speechless

John Doe

13 Jan 2021, 09:25

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203246562283/?autorefresh=true


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arkanoid

13 Jan 2021, 14:53


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hellothere

14 Jan 2021, 21:53

Johnbo wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 18:12
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324449990660

Did this guy just dip the sliders of some Matias Clicks into blue paint and call them "Canada Blue" switches?
I've bought stuff from this guy. He's a professor out of New Mexico. He sells uranium and geiger counters, too. He'd probably be an interesting person to sit down and talk with.

He may still have lots of 10 Alps switches for around $10 + shipping, and you only pay that one shipping charge for however many switches you get. That's good. What's bad is that he ships whatever switches of about the same color that's lying around. I think my last order for cream damped had 6 cream damped, a couple pine white, and a couple bamboo white. The order I had before that was also for cream damped and I had about the same spread of switches. When I told him about it through ebay, he responded by saying (direct quote; I have it in my ebay mail): "In the future, I suggest that you buy the ALPS keyswitches from other sellers, not from me. At age <deleted>, any sensitivity to color is likely for me to get worse, not better." :shock:

Anyhow, he's also selling "Canada Red Clone" switches. That'd be your Matias Quiet Linear.

EDIT: I checked that "Canada Blue" picture on my big monitor. The switches say "Matias" right on the front of them.

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hellothere

14 Jan 2021, 22:36

arkanoid wrote:
13 Jan 2021, 14:53
Blue alps, looks clean. 220 BIN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Samsun ... 5012394740
Yoink!

A little too bad that it's a Chicony 'board, but I've got a couple cases I can do some switching on.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

15 Jan 2021, 09:13

hellothere wrote:
14 Jan 2021, 21:53
[…] he responded by saying (direct quote; I have it in my ebay mail): "In the future, I suggest that you buy the ALPS keyswitches from other sellers, not from me. At age <deleted>, any sensitivity to color is likely for me to get worse, not better." :shock: […]
Now at least it’s a straightforward and fairly motivated answer :mrgreen:

cakeanalytics

15 Jan 2021, 16:18


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