Zed's IBM 3101 Beamspring Triple Restoration Thread

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ZedTheMan

29 Aug 2019, 22:31

Hello, denizens of Deskthority!

It's ZedTheMan here, and today I'm coming at you with something a little different from my usual workshop threads, that is, me not having workshop threads.
Today I'm coming at you with a beamspring restoration thread!

"But Zed!" you say,
"Aren't there already dozens of beamspring restoration threads?"

Yes, but this one is mine. And it has three beamsprings instead of the usual one!
Let us begin with the story of these keyboards.

In around 1982-1983 based on labels, these keyboards were created in Armonk, NY, USA for IBM, for use with the IBM 3101 line of terminal computers.

Their original owners apparently were big fans of paper clips, as when originally found, they had up to 15 or so clips per board.

Eventually, the terminals these originally were used with were presumably considered outdated and were replaced by newer models, and the keyboards managed to make it into the hands of a local collector of sorts of all kinds of vintage computing equipment.

Here, the keyboards sat, outside, on the porch, for roughly 20 years, enduring the weather of Colorado Springs.

Fast forward to the deskthority community discord, August 2019. The keyboards are found by the user LuckyBill, who is friends with the person who had the keyboards for 20 years, as he goes through their garage as a recycler. However, he was unable to identify the boards, and began the process of stripping them for parts. After 20 years, they were in a rather dirty shape, being exposed to the elements and paper clips for that long. In his quest to discern more about the keyboards, he had come upon the discord channel, and asked more about the keyboards.

The inhabitants of the discord channel naturally was enamored with the find of three beamspring keyboards, and asked all kinds of information regarding pictures and other keyboard condition things. Some were also interested in purchasing, me included. So I offered on the whole lot, and he accepted. (Thanks again Bill, I am very happy with these!)
Pictures from discord and subsequent conversations included, in no particular order.
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The lot included quite a bit. 4 IBM 3101 cases and back plates, and all of the components for three 3101 keyboard modules. (Excluding some missing/damaged parts on one of them)
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Before they came into my possession, Bill did some basic cleaning of the boards, mostly on the cases, so as to make them not disgusting. The actual beamspring boards themselves, such as the keycaps and contamination shield, were left uncleaned.
On the day they are set to come in, the satisfaction of unboxing them myself was taken from me, as the family knew they were coming in and already set about to do so. They laid it all out for me, at least, and I do have pictures of this. They were packed very well!
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What to do when they came in? Unwrap!
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Well, lets get to work, shall we?
Removed the caps and contamination shield, first one:
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I can't believe my eyes, they're all relatively clean and not very rusty at all! (I mean, one is missing a few switches and caps, but that is okay, I shall be replacing them.)
The three musketeers:
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20 years exposed to rain, snow, wind, and dust. And yet, IBM engineering persisted.

Those are some effective contamination shields, but away they must go!

One set of keycaps is cleaned, not pictured.
Added to the keyboard.
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The next step, is to put one back together and give it a whirl. But how to do so? All I have now is an unconverted beamspring keyboard and some admittedly nice Porter.
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It takes CommonSense.(And some not so common sense to continue with CommonSense, but then, these are beamsprings so the effort is worthwhile.)
It took me three tries to get the converter right, with the help from __red__, PancakeMSTR, kmnov2012, and members of the DT discord such as lbibass and SneakyRobb.
Pictured are attempts at making it work, all pictures are from unsuccessful attempts.
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But huzzah, at last it works! And here I am typing this first portion of a large restoration project on an IBM 3101 Beampspring!
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Just because I got one converted doesn't mean I am done by a long shot. I still need to clean the other keyboards' keycaps, replace foam on all of them, remove rust that is remaining, and disassemble, clean, and lubricate every switch, which comes out to over 250 beamspring switches. I also need to get solenoid drivers working, and assemble those using pcbs from kmnov and parts from digikey, as well as configure the other two cypress controllers to run commonsense. I've also purchased replacement switches from orihalcon to get all the remaining parts I needed for the keyboard missing parts, which was also in worse physical condition than the other two.

Stay tuned as I continue the restoration process.
Bonus picture of Grandpa Beamspring, Big Hoss F122, and Young Lad Model M
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Last edited by ZedTheMan on 29 Aug 2019, 23:38, edited 1 time in total.

Fkazim

29 Aug 2019, 23:22

Great work on the restorations I have also very recently fully restored my IBM 5251 beamspring barring some keycaps I still need to get. Just wondering what are you going to do with the other 2 Beamspring keybpards sell, trade eitherway really great work. I can really appreciate the amount of work that goes into restoring a beamspring after restoring one myself. Especially the TEDIOUS task of disassembling every switch damn it gets annoying so respect but the way I see it is its a labour of love so its all good :D

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JP!

30 Aug 2019, 00:00

I want one :D

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

30 Aug 2019, 00:10

JP! wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 00:00
I want one :D
Don't you already have like four?

Great restoration though, amazing condition for such old beamers.

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JP!

30 Aug 2019, 01:10

Redmaus wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 00:10
JP! wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 00:00
I want one :D
Don't you already have like four?

Great restoration though, amazing condition for such old beamers.
Like Trump's tax return I won't say :lol: but I have no doubles and don't have a 3101 and that's one I'd like to have in my collection. I don't need or want one of every model just the best ones.

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ZedTheMan

30 Aug 2019, 01:42

Well, when I'm done restoring them, ideally I would like to sell them to members of the community.

However, I may also sell one on fleabay to get the most out of it, and one to someone here for a more reasonable price. I have car repairs and licensing to pay for, you see.

As for anyone interested in purchase/trade, PM me with offers, and if you'd like me to finish restoration before or not.

Know that for the reasonably priced one I do have some people who get the first dibs, as i have promised them as such.

I look forward to continuing the process and updating you all. Currently I am trying to find a way to safely disassemble the switches.
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Fkazim

30 Aug 2019, 01:55

On my Beamspring restoration thread I show an easy and safe way to disassemble the beamspring switches you can check it out if you like.

Link: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22586

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ZedTheMan

30 Aug 2019, 02:04

Thank you for the link, Fkazim!

Right now I'm just looking for a part that fits this.
Thankfully I have a broken switch to use for checking.

Fkazim

30 Aug 2019, 02:08

No problem glad you found it helpful :D

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JP!

30 Aug 2019, 02:32

Fkazim wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 01:55
On my Beamspring restoration thread I show an easy and safe way to disassemble the beamspring switches you can check it out if you like.

Link: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22586
I used heavy duty lineman pliers with a tiny bit of electrical tape on the jaws to prevent scratching or digging into the metal of the stems. All other pliers are inferior. They must be Kline pliers ;) but for those in Europe I recommend Knipex. I leave all the modules in the metal plate. Next I find a flat surface and stand on the edges of the plate and go to town pulling all the stems in an assembly line fashion.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18679&hilit=pliers

PancakeMSTR

30 Aug 2019, 07:29

So awesome! Fantastic diligence with the restorations man!

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SneakyRobb

30 Aug 2019, 15:57

Hi this is Great Zed, excellent job!



JP! wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 02:32
Fkazim wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 01:55
On my Beamspring restoration thread I show an easy and safe way to disassemble the beamspring switches you can check it out if you like.

Link: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22586
I used heavy duty lineman pliers with a tiny bit of electrical tape on the jaws to prevent scratching or digging into the metal of the stems. All other pliers are inferior. They must be Kline pliers ;) but for those in Europe I recommend Knipex. I leave all the modules in the metal plate. Next I find a flat surface and stand on the edges of the plate and go to town pulling all the stems in an assembly line fashion.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18679&hilit=pliers
Hi, I always thought this sort of method might have the effect of putting a lot of stress on the white slider. I haven't heard of anyone actually damaging a slider in this way though. Have you ever damaged a slider in this way?

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JP!

30 Aug 2019, 16:02

SneakyRobb wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 15:57
Hi, I always thought this sort of method might have the effect of putting a lot of stress on the white slider. I haven't heard of anyone actually damaging a slider in this way though. Have you ever damaged a slider in this way?
Never damaged a slider :D

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SneakyRobb

30 Aug 2019, 16:15

JP! wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 16:02
SneakyRobb wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 15:57
Hi, I always thought this sort of method might have the effect of putting a lot of stress on the white slider. I haven't heard of anyone actually damaging a slider in this way though. Have you ever damaged a slider in this way?
Never damaged a slider :D
Hi,
Ah kay sounds good. I am glad you took the risk so I don't have to! :D

I will use this method from now on thanks

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ZedTheMan

30 Aug 2019, 16:31

Then I shall go with JP! Method as it seems quickest

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SneakyRobb

31 Aug 2019, 23:18

ZedTheMan wrote:
29 Aug 2019, 22:31
Hello, denizens of Deskthority!
Do we have a demonym?

Desk Thoritarians?

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

31 Aug 2019, 23:22

Deskers

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digital_matthew

01 Sep 2019, 01:50

It's inspiring to see so much love going to keyboards that deserve them.

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ZedTheMan

08 Sep 2019, 19:21

Updates: I have more parts! Everything I need to build/restore these (besides a couple of small components I need to repurchase after losing) have come in!
11 Beamspring modules, 2 thicc cables, and 3 solenoid driver PCBs.

As you can see, I hand soldered one solenoid driver, still need to test. Will update when doing so.
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ZedTheMan

12 Sep 2019, 15:15

Heyo, I have run into problems trying to get the solenoid working. It is unresponsive. I suspect it is to do with my soldering/component placement. Can I please get some high quality images of an assembled Xwhatsit solenoid driver board so I can see component orientation properly?

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SneakyRobb

12 Sep 2019, 18:02

Hi,

One of the best photos for this is this xwhatsit one.


Are you able to share a higher res photo of your board so we can see if you have any bridges/orientation? It is kind of hard to see what is going on due to blurriness


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ZedTheMan

Today, 06:59

Heyo, thanks for the help SneakyRobb. I've resoldered a few components and replaced some others, but still no response from the driver. (It is getting 5v properly from the vcc, according to my multimeter, and the connections seem to be right as well).

This is a problem for another day, though. Today is a big day for the restorations.

I completed one of them. :)

Many images and video coming after I take a well deserved break.

PancakeMSTR

Today, 07:52

If it makes you feel any better Zed, I can't get the solenoid working either. Might have to ask DMA about it.

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