Round 4 / packing (99.8%) / shipping (99.7%)
- rindorbrot
- Location: Bavaria, Germany
- Main keyboard: Phantom, GON NerD 2.0 TKL
- Main mouse: Zowie ZA11
- Favorite switch: MX Ergo-Clear, Nixdorf Soft-Touch
- DT Pro Member: 0029
Wait! you must try them on a HHKB first!
(And also send me mine before you do )
(And also send me mine before you do )
- rindorbrot
- Location: Bavaria, Germany
- Main keyboard: Phantom, GON NerD 2.0 TKL
- Main mouse: Zowie ZA11
- Favorite switch: MX Ergo-Clear, Nixdorf Soft-Touch
- DT Pro Member: 0029
How about some little photos in between?
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- Location: Sweden, Europe
- Main keyboard: Phantom
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- DT Pro Member: -
Will you please not send mine back to SP!7bit wrote:I tried the SPH-keys on an Alps board, but I could not mount them.
Same problem with the 122 key Model M ....
I will send them back to SP.
I still like the colors, even though they won't fit superior premium switches.
mkay.
Thank you.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
They did only very few tolerable errors with the SPH and ROUND3 keys.
But the RETRO stuff has been really messed up!
There are 2 kinds of line width for the normal text legends (things like Use, Stop, Print)!
Most (almost all) symbols are too thin compared to the large letters (A-Z).
Not so the Tab key: it is as thick as Cherry would make it, but that does not match the rest of the keys.
Last but not least: They are incapable of centering the text in the upper left quarter or the key top. Instead they do it wrong and squeeze everything to the left.
But the RETRO stuff has been really messed up!
There are 2 kinds of line width for the normal text legends (things like Use, Stop, Print)!
Most (almost all) symbols are too thin compared to the large letters (A-Z).
Not so the Tab key: it is as thick as Cherry would make it, but that does not match the rest of the keys.
Last but not least: They are incapable of centering the text in the upper left quarter or the key top. Instead they do it wrong and squeeze everything to the left.
- matt3o
- -[°_°]-
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
- Contact:
they screwed up some of the DSA keys too, but we requested those keys to be redone (on them).7bit wrote:They did only very few tolerable errors with the SPH and ROUND3 keys.
But the RETRO stuff has been really messed up!
There are 2 kinds of line width for the normal text legends (things like Use, Stop, Print)!
Most (almost all) symbols are too thin compared to the large letters (A-Z).
Not so the Tab key: it is as thick as Cherry would make it, but that does not match the rest of the keys.
Last but not least: They are incapable of centering the text in the upper left quarter or the key top. Instead they do it wrong and squeeze everything to the left.
- matt3o
- -[°_°]-
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
- Contact:
is your ^ HUGE too?!
- Halvar
- Location: Baden, DE
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
- Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0051
On the Cherry keyboard I'm typing on right now, the "I" (capital i) is left aligned in just the same way. But for the number row, 7bit is right IMO. Look at "9" and "0" and the parentheses on these caps, or at "\". I think one can get used to it though. Same for the line widths.
- rknize
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech Trackman Wheel
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Everything pointed out so far is pretty typical of SP using the Wyse legends. Most of the legends are crammed way to the left. Especially the keys in CamelCase like modifiers and the nav cluster.
The tab key is an exception and has been brought up in the past. If you choose their normal Tab legend that says "Tab", the weight of the arrows is correct. That one with no text is really thick for some reason.
The ANSI keys look pretty much like other SP sets I have. I saw no surprises when 7bit initially posted those pics. Keys for other layouts are not familiar to me, so I can't really comment on those.
The tab key is an exception and has been brought up in the past. If you choose their normal Tab legend that says "Tab", the weight of the arrows is correct. That one with no text is really thick for some reason.
The ANSI keys look pretty much like other SP sets I have. I saw no surprises when 7bit initially posted those pics. Keys for other layouts are not familiar to me, so I can't really comment on those.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Yes, the wedge is perfect!matt3o wrote:is your ^ HUGE too?!
But look how the 6 is more to the left than the wedge. Oh well, everybody does it wrong (IBM, Cherry, ...).
They messed up the pound sterling symbol in ROUND3, it is too small. In the original Round 3 it came out perfect.
Back then $ was too small, now it is perfect.
They messed up the spherical Yen sign (= is too high on the Y).
They are still in their bags so they can't fall down the table.JSchool wrote:That capital "i" sure is straddling the edge. Almost looks like a jumper. It's suicidal! Someone talk it back!
When I unpacked these I though they are underscore keys (like the ones on the NUMERIC kits).
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Everything right, ecept I told them how the letters should be placed and they saw PNG graphics of all the symbol keys so they should have had an idea how thick the lines should be. The legend on the Tab key is too big, any other is too thin (even thinner than the A-Z keys).rknize wrote:Everything pointed out so far is pretty typical of SP using the Wyse legends. Most of the legends are crammed way to the left. Especially the keys in CamelCase like modifiers and the nav cluster.
The tab key is an exception and has been brought up in the past. If you choose their normal Tab legend that says "Tab", the weight of the arrows is correct. That one with no text is really thick for some reason.
The ANSI keys look pretty much like other SP sets I have. I saw no surprises when 7bit initially posted those pics. Keys for other layouts are not familiar to me, so I can't really comment on those.
- matt3o
- -[°_°]-
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
- Contact:
I think the worst case is the 0) key... alignment is really really bad.
- Halvar
- Location: Baden, DE
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
- Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0051
The Tab key looks like it's from another set, the hyphen/underscore key looks like the designer didn't know at all what a hypen or an underscore is, and the slanted apostrophes are just wrong. These are the worst cases imo.
The left-aligned legends aren't really good-looking, but at least it's a consistent pattern to left-align everything, isn't it?
The left-aligned legends aren't really good-looking, but at least it's a consistent pattern to left-align everything, isn't it?
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- Location: Germany
- DT Pro Member: -
still they are not the same as a typewriter apostrophe . apostrophe are really a mess and there are soooooo much symbols which are looking “similar”. well, I am not upset about it though. just wanted to mention it as in the sample picture it looks like there is a prime (the slanted single one) and the typewriter double quotes (the staight double one)
here are some links about that (in german):
http://typefacts.de/artikel/apostroph
http://typefacts.de/artikel/grundlagen/ ... ngszeichen
here are some links about that (in german):
http://typefacts.de/artikel/apostroph
http://typefacts.de/artikel/grundlagen/ ... ngszeichen
- Halvar
- Location: Baden, DE
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
- Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0051
A prime should look like this ', not like this ´!
And even if in your font the prime was really slanted, the double prime above it on the same key should be slanted too.
http://www.creativepro.com/article/typo ... tion-marks
And even if in your font the prime was really slanted, the double prime above it on the same key should be slanted too.
http://www.creativepro.com/article/typo ... tion-marks
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/rfc20
Please keep in mind: There are only 128 entries in the 7bit ASCII table, so some of these have more than one meaning, depending on where they are used.
Please keep in mind: There are only 128 entries in the 7bit ASCII table, so some of these have more than one meaning, depending on where they are used.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
I did not come so far.
Here are the 2 different line widths of text keys. Win is correct, the other 2 look too thin!
Photographed with the Fuji X100, BTW.
Here are the 2 different line widths of text keys. Win is correct, the other 2 look too thin!
Photographed with the Fuji X100, BTW.