Combining QWERTZ with an ANSI return key
- bugfix
- Location: Weilerswist, Germany
- Main keyboard: Realforce 105GR
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: BS and Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I just wrote Chuck of Unicomp an email and asked him if it was possible to combine the standard German QWERTZ (I need to type a lot of German legal documents, no programming) with the ANSI enter key (My little finger is not 10cm long)
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What do you think of that idea?
Here are two images to illustrate:
What do you think of that idea?
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
Basically all Model Ms (no matter if Japanese, ISO or ANSI) are all the same base hardware. A giant plate with many holes in them. These holes are then either filled with nothing, with a stabilizing plastic thingie or with a buckling spring.
Since you will be adding new parts, you will have to do the nuts'n'bolts mod to your Model M.
Check these links:
* Nuts 'n' Bolts
* International Model M mini
Things you will need:
* Model M/Unicomp board (duh!)
* Nuts and bolts
* German keycaps, ISO Enter, ISO Backslash (or have Unicomp make a 1.5 size key with the proper German legend)
* Some of those mysterious stabilizer plastic parts
Unicomp should be able to provide everything besides the nuts and bolts.
Hope this helps.
Since you will be adding new parts, you will have to do the nuts'n'bolts mod to your Model M.
Check these links:
* Nuts 'n' Bolts
* International Model M mini
Things you will need:
* Model M/Unicomp board (duh!)
* Nuts and bolts
* German keycaps, ISO Enter, ISO Backslash (or have Unicomp make a 1.5 size key with the proper German legend)
* Some of those mysterious stabilizer plastic parts
Unicomp should be able to provide everything besides the nuts and bolts.
Hope this helps.
- bugfix
- Location: Weilerswist, Germany
- Main keyboard: Realforce 105GR
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: BS and Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
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Hello Philipp
We can do the keyboard as you have identified, however there is a $10.00 charge for the customization
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Maybe next time! It would be cool to mod a space saver to space saving layout or smaller, but that is further down on my list. Could ask for ansi with short left shift, and use the extra key for fn.
- bugfix
- Location: Weilerswist, Germany
- Main keyboard: Realforce 105GR
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: BS and Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I have no idea. Jim told me on the phone (and in a different email) that it was "physically impossible" now Chuck told me they could do it. But I won't complain as long as get my keyboard.
- daedalus
- Buckler Of Springs
- Location: Ireland
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK (home) HHKB Pro 2 (work)
- Main mouse: CST Lasertrack, Logitech MX Master
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring, Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0087
Whoever you asked first must have been thinking in terms of a pre-made Model M, given that you're asking for a mix of an ANSI and ISO layout, they'd need to arrange the springs specially when the keyboard assembly is being bolted together. Once the keyboard assembly is bolted together, it is really not worth their time to mod it into a non-standard layout.
- bugfix
- Location: Weilerswist, Germany
- Main keyboard: Realforce 105GR
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: BS and Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
It finally arrived today! The Ansi enter is really nice, finally I don't have to stretch my pinky that much anymore...
Too bad that the blue Alt that I ordered along with the keyboard doesn't fit.
Too bad that the blue Alt that I ordered along with the keyboard doesn't fit.
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
You would've had to get a 101-key Customizer in order to use your blue Alt key.
But I'm glad to see your keyboard's working out well! I always preferred the long ANSI Enter keys myself.
But I'm glad to see your keyboard's working out well! I always preferred the long ANSI Enter keys myself.
- bugfix
- Location: Weilerswist, Germany
- Main keyboard: Realforce 105GR
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: BS and Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
They're actually sending me a smaller one, that's what I call customer servicemicrosoft windows wrote:You would've had to get a 101-key Customizer in order to use your blue Alt key.
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
I've always liked Unicomp. They're very nice and always out there to help.
Same with clickykeyboards.com. Their products are a little pricey, but they give you A+ customer service.
Same with clickykeyboards.com. Their products are a little pricey, but they give you A+ customer service.
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
Nice! Glad it turned out fine.
PS: The custom print on these keys looks decent. This may confirm the theory that unicomp print quality only sucks on separate keys but is fine when doing a full run of keys. Hmm.
PS: The custom print on these keys looks decent. This may confirm the theory that unicomp print quality only sucks on separate keys but is fine when doing a full run of keys. Hmm.
- bugfix
- Location: Weilerswist, Germany
- Main keyboard: Realforce 105GR
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: BS and Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Thank you ! So am Isixty wrote:Nice! Glad it turned out fine.
It is a mystery... But they will send me a new batch of keys, including a red Alt, a blue Strg and a Capslock key with Strg, so we can compare those to the full run.sixty wrote: PS: The custom print on these keys looks decent. This may confirm the theory that unicomp print quality only sucks on separate keys but is fine when doing a full run of keys. Hmm.
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Will the Strg "Caps-Lock" key be blue too?
- Julle
- Location: Finland
- Main keyboard: Wooting Two HE
- Main mouse: CST L-trac
- Favorite switch: Lekker Hall effect
- DT Pro Member: -
This is a great idea. I wish that the ANSI enter was the standard for all European layouts. This would make life easier for manufacturers as well - all you'd have to do would be to add one key next to left shift. The more I use my ANSI boards the more retarded the ISO enter feels.