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Posted: 02 May 2012, 13:47
by JBert
7bit wrote:I always add stuff to other's articles and don't have a problem with others adding/editing those started by me. I just don't like cosmetic changes which do not improve anything.
I believe cosmetics are important too, otherwise I wouldn't go and insert gallery tags, or carefully tweak images to have the right size and fill rate. And then there's spell checking, copy-editing or just doing grammar QA.

There are all kinds of stuff which won't add new content or might have dubious benefit, but to me they are all necessary to have a proper wiki without eyesores.

Posted: 02 May 2012, 13:56
by 7bit
Except for making images smaller, I don't complain if you correct my typos!
:-)

Posted: 02 May 2012, 14:23
by webwit
Let me repeat my question for the third time since you are an important and respected editor of the wiki. Do you want some common consistency and structure, or not? And if you do how do you propose to get there? You lost a vote 5:1 on a minor issue, and are still stubbornly fighting a battle for reasons unknown. If people act that way even with only their single vote, there will be no consistency. I like an informal vote among active editors/members to settle these things. The other options are an ever growing mess, or a dictator.

Posted: 02 May 2012, 14:35
by 7bit
webwit wrote:Let me repeat my question for the third time ...
:shock:
webwit wrote:... since you are an important and respected editor of the wiki.
:ugeek:
webwit wrote:Do you want some common consistency and structure, or not?
:-) --{Yes!}
webwit wrote:And if you do how do you propose to get there?
:?
webwit wrote:You lost a vote 5:1 on a minor issue, and are still stubbornly fighting a battle for reasons unknown.
:twisted:
webwit wrote:If people act that way even with only their single vote, there will be no consistency.
:-(
webwit wrote:I like an informal vote among active editors/members to settle these things.
:-) --{OK, let's vote!}
webwit wrote:The other options are an ever growing mess, or a dictator.
:mad: <---dictator

To be serious:

There are not too many differences between my style and other's style, just the size of the images is the problem.
5:1 is quite bad, so maybe we will have only those thumbnails.

Posted: 02 May 2012, 15:19
by kbdfr
7bit wrote:[...] There are not too many differences between my style and other's style, just the size of the images is the problem.
5:1 is quite bad, so maybe we will have only those thumbnails.
I did not understand the debate as a dispute between huge images and thumbnails:
kbdfr wrote:I want pics to provide enough information as an illustration of the text without being obliged to click on them. Thumbs are definitely no solution to that.
But I want pics not to occupy too much space on my screen as long as I have not myself decided to see them enlarged.

Between very small thumbs giving just an idea of what the actual pic could look like and almost screen-filling pics, I feel there must be an acceptable size.

Posted: 02 May 2012, 15:39
by Findecanor
ripster wrote:My vote is for Findecanor to win the contest!

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Monterey_switch
You're just saying that because I'm linking to your articles ... ;)

Posted: 02 May 2012, 15:54
by ripster
No it's because I don't want 7bit to win.

Posted: 02 May 2012, 17:51
by 7bit
ripster wrote:No it's because I don't want 7bit to win.
Because I organised the contest, I do not participate.

What would people think when I win (as expected)?

I think Findecanor is defiintely a candidate, but there are still HaaTa and Daedalus....

Posted: 02 May 2012, 19:05
by itlnstln
7bit wrote:HaaTa and Daedalus....
Sounds like a South American lounge group...

Image

The wiki thread

Posted: 02 May 2012, 23:36
by graboy
This is mostly just my opinion, but I don't think the writing style people are using is very "Wiki-ish". Here's the first sentence in the article "wiki" on wikipedia.

A Wiki is a website whose users can add, modify, or delete its content via a web browser using a simplified markup language or a rich-text editor.

Here's what you guys are writing like:

A Wiki is a website where people can edit pages by using a web browser.

I've gone through articles just making things sound better and read smoother... Like saying 'uses' rather than 'has got". Just a tip for some other editors.

Posted: 02 May 2012, 23:39
by ripster

Posted: 02 May 2012, 23:46
by webwit
To be able to vote you must contribute a prize:
http://deskthority.net/news-reviews-f4/ ... t2466.html
Don't you have an IBM SSK somewhere rotting away in a box??

Posted: 02 May 2012, 23:49
by 7bit
ripster wrote:My vote has swung to Haata!

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Fujitsu_Leaf_Spring
I think HaaTa has done a great job so far. Even if I would participate, he'd be in the lead.
webwit wrote:To be able to vote you must contribute a prize:
http://deskthority.net/news-reviews-f4/ ... t2466.html
Don't you have an IBM SSK somewhere rotting away in a box??
:o Wait!

Under these circumstances, I will change the rules and participate myself!
:evilgeek:

Posted: 04 May 2012, 18:31
by HaaTa
Glad people like my articles. And my apologies (and thanks!) to those fixing my grammar/spelling, I'm not usually one to read over my work :P.

We'll see how much time I'll have this month, and if I can write any more serious articles (not to demoralize anyone :lol: ).
It takes quite a bit of time to do the patent research for the keyswitch wiki's, and find even hints at force curves and such (I really need to make some sort of force curve data collection device...).


Also.

I tried to do in-place citations in my articles. But found they looked like crap in the references section (and couldn't find a way to do multiple references to a single article...why couldn't this be more sane like in LaTex). Any suggestions here? I did use a few images that are not my own, and would like to properly reference them (the references are at the bottom of each wiki though).
Any thoughts on citation style?

Posted: 05 May 2012, 01:10
by 002
I've used your [wiki]Oki Gourd Spring[/wiki] article as an example to demonstrate it.
If you want to use the citation more than once, you'd just have it as:

Code: Select all

<ref name="whatever">www.whatever.com</ref>
Then whenever you want to cite that reference, you'd just use

Code: Select all

<ref name="whatever"/>

Posted: 05 May 2012, 03:40
by HaaTa
Thanks 002, will try that when I get a spare moment/bored of all the other stuff I'm doing :P

Posted: 11 May 2012, 00:52
by graboy
Did 7bit steal my article? All of the revision history shows that he created the article, and made all of the edits and changes from when I first created it, even though (Unless I'm crazy... which is very possible), I'm certain that I wrote the article on the [wiki]Corsair K90[/wiki]. Sorry for accusing you, 7bit, as even to me it seems ridiculous that someone would take credit for an article that they didn't write, but I can understand why someone would do this if they didn't want to give their keyboards away to somebody maybe they don't like much, if that is the case. :?

I'm probably just making a ridiculous statement here, as there might have been a rollback or something and all edits went in under 7bit's name, but I'd like to have credit for writing what I wrote: I don't remember the last time I read a book with an anonymous author.

Edit: Also, can we please agree that this is a padlock, and not a "Handbag"?
http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:G80-2550_handbag.jpg

:lol:

Posted: 11 May 2012, 01:19
by webwit
The page you created is here:
http://deskthority.net/w/index.php?titl ... edirect=no
It was turned into a redirect to a retitled page, this is just how mediawiki works.

Posted: 11 May 2012, 07:01
by kbdfr
graboy wrote:[...] Also, can we please agree that this is a padlock, and not a "Handbag"?
http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:G80-2550_handbag.jpg

:lol:
It's no use. I pointed at that months ago, see 7bit's answer:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Talk:Cherry_G80-2510 :lol:

Well, we could call the symbol on the Shift key a "stylised house"
Or the + key on the number pad a "sylised church"
Or the * key a "stylised Ferris wheel"
:mrgreen:

Posted: 11 May 2012, 07:12
by ripster
I just put a pic of a big fucking globe at the end of my wikis.

Makes it hard to miss who did it.

I'm still voting HaTaa. I really need to figure this shit out because Vbulletin VaultWiki is a pile of steaming shit.

Posted: 17 May 2012, 12:39
by 7bit
OMG!

The Wiki!

Gone:
http://deskthority.net/wiki
:shock:

Posted: 17 May 2012, 15:58
by webwit
I was wrestling with a php 5.3 to 5.4 upgrade. Which works well. Unfortunately the APC 3.1.10 cache for PHP 5.4 didn't. So I reverted to 5.3, which caused some other problems.

Posted: 17 May 2012, 16:18
by 7bit
deskthority.net wasn't reachable for a few seconds, too.

Great to see there is no 3-days loss, like on, err ... conventional forums.
:-)

Re: The wiki thread

Posted: 17 May 2012, 16:19
by mintberryminuscrunch
And tapatalk is working again, too.

Posted: 17 May 2012, 16:35
by webwit
Scumbag PHP...

Image

Posted: 17 May 2012, 17:28
by ripster
I screenshotted that for the lulz.

I'd post but I'd be Demongolated.

Posted: 26 May 2012, 20:44
by IvanIvanovich
I would like to make an entry for Commodore PC5 (G80-0499). I don't understand how to create a new sub entry under the Cherry G80 section. Sorry for such a noob question, but I haven't dealt with wiki before, I guess I need it broken down Barney style.

Posted: 26 May 2012, 21:03
by 7bit
lysol wrote:I would like to make an entry for Commodore PC5 (G80-0499). I don't understand how to create a new sub entry under the Cherry G80 section. Sorry for such a noob question, but I haven't dealt with wiki before, I guess I need it broken down Barney style.
Just copy the text of this article:
Cherry_G80-0528

And paste it into this article:
Cherry_G80-0499

Then esit the article.To upload images, just change the filenames and then save. Click on the red text where the image should be and upload your images.

Can't be easier!


ps: Please notice everybody: I gave him a link to an article with a gallery, not with my full-size pictures!!!

Posted: 26 May 2012, 21:41
by IvanIvanovich
Thank you, content added.

Posted: 26 May 2012, 21:57
by 7bit
lysol wrote:Thank you, content added.
Now, that you wrote the article, you don't need the keyboard anymore and may sell it to me.
:-)