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Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 15:09
by Fkazim
Well before getting into any of that what pins do I solder to on the teensey++ for the rows and columns?

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 15:27
by Anakey
here is the pinout of the teensy2++
https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/pinout4a.png

you will want to keep pins D0 and D1 free if you are going to be using a screen as it will need those pins

As has been mentioned D6 does have an on board LED which can cause errors so best to avoid that pin other then that it is up to yu to decide where you are going to bve putting the rows/columns.

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 15:32
by Fkazim
OK Thanks for all the help last thing what pin on the teensey would I solder the keyboards caps lock LED to?

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 15:34
by Anakey
that can be soldered to any pin, you will probably need to add a resistor though

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 15:39
by Fkazim
OK when I setup the teensey do I just past in the code I got from the website for the basic layout and off I go? Will private message you tonight about the teensey is the teensey you are going to send me going to be setup already? or will I need to do that?

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 16:00
by Anakey
the code you get from keyboardlayouteditor.com would need to be pasted into kbfirmware.com, you will need to set up your matrix, teensy pins, cps lock pin, keymap etc then further edit those files for your ctrl 1= F1 before compiling into a .hex file. Then you would need to flash that file to the teensy. It is not a simple process that is why its best to take the steps slowly rather then rush into it, make mistakes and then get frustrated when it does not work.

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 16:19
by Fkazim
When I made my layout in kbfirmware.com I checked the matrix It said my keyboard had. I noticed its slightly different from what I drew up which one is correct just wondering as it could be possible my matrix i drew is slightly inaccurate? But I'm not really sure Thanks for all the help it is so appreciated.

Below is the matrix it said I have let me know your thoughts.
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Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 16:23
by Anakey
it will generate a matrix based on the layout, you would need to manually edit each switch to make sure it matched the matrix that you drew out. otherwise you would get errors like a f when should be a g etc

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 16:33
by Fkazim
OK will double check tonight just to be sure.

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 20:20
by Fkazim
Ok just confirmed the matrix for sure and neatened up some of the pin labels.
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Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 20:42
by Muirium
Here’s a good trick: use letters for the rows. So you don’t mix them up. Then you’ll know for sure where C4 is, etc. instead of potentially messing up 3x2 for 2x3.

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 21:15
by Fkazim
OK I appreciate the advice I will do that.

Thanks.

Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped need help with controller programming.

Posted: 28 Sep 2019, 15:38
by Fkazim
Thought I would throw on the Tai-Hao keys as I am so close to converting this keyboard let me know what you think picture posted below also any ideas where I could source a big space bar in black to match the other keys?
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Very high quality doubleshot ABS keycaps below is some close ups of the moulding.
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Re: Key Communications keyboard Matrix Mapped Making Good Progress.

Posted: 04 Oct 2019, 13:00
by Fkazim
OK so update I tried to desolder those 2 chips for the columns and the coating over the traces started to come off. Not the actual traces the coating over them in fact after looking closer into it I can actually scratch the coating off with just my finger nail. So what do you guys recommend now Please help.

Thanks.

Also I got the Teensey Thanks a lot Anakey :D

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 00:47
by Anakey
probably conformal coating protecting against moisure or dirt etc; as long as the traces are fine it shouldn't matter

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 13:53
by Fkazim
Ok that's good news below is a picture of what I am taking about.

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 15:03
by Anakey
try not to scratch too much off as it exposes the traces underneeth which could be a problem if you get shorts due to teh traces being exposed.

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 17:44
by Fkazim
I will try not to. As this coating came off whilst trying to desolder the chip. How should I go about removing the chips now. Or should I just solder directly to the chip and cut the power pins?

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 20:59
by Anakey
you can still desolder the chips just do not take the coating off beyond that. Actually looking at it again all the traces going to the keyboard are on the opposite side so the traces you have shown will not be connected to the teensy anyway

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 07 Oct 2019, 10:00
by Fkazim
Well I tried desoldering again yesterday with my desoldering gun and same thing the thin coating on the traces just keeps scratching off. I have never seen this before with a keyboard PCB. I have only ever seen these thinly coated PCB's on one router that I repaired few years back. I really don't want to ruin the PCB. As you say though the traces for the matrix are on top of the PCB so should i just ruin those obsolete traces whilst trying to desolder the chip as I think that would be the only way anyways let me know your opinions.

Thanks.

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 07 Oct 2019, 23:12
by Anakey
you should be fine you would need to remove them anyway

Re: Key Communications Keyboard Coating On Traces Coming Off Help

Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 01:03
by Fkazim
OK will do that.