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Apple Lisa Keyboard
Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 23:46
by snuci
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:41
by Muirium
Intriguing it's so different from the M0110 Macintosh keyboard. What a difference a Steve makes! He was kicked off the Lisa project long before the end, which is how the Mac became its
internal rival.
Thanks for posing it next to the matching
Lisa mouse. Could use some more pics of the caps, though!
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:47
by seebart
Certainly a very good looking keyboard, and pretty large. That Key Tronic freebie I got from webwit has the same switch. Not my favorite but I've felt worse.
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 04:45
by terrycherry
Great post again. That look like Key Tronic foam and foil (Tactile)Butterfly switch but something different. I mention that it could be the Butterfly type 2.
Could this switch fit on tactile variant?
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 14:01
by Engicoder
Nice!. I had assumed the lisa keyboard was just a variant of the M0110A, but its clearly a completely different animal. Older keytronic PCBs are always nice to look at. They did a good job reducing the foot print of the keyboard by packing the components between the alpha group and the keypad.
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 17:08
by andrewjoy
Indeed , keytronic had a good PCB layout guy , there is an art to PCB design . You look at some products on the inside now and think, did they just vomit the SMD components all over the PCB ? Hey modern designers , put the autorouter down and step away from the computer.
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 17:40
by tigpha
Thanks for generously showing your collection snuci.
andrewjoy wrote: Hey modern designers , put the autorouter down and step away from the computer.
Monsieur Joy, my point of view is entirely aesthetic, and I fully endorse your plea. Although the Lisa keyboard PCB has far too many zigzags to my taste. My preference leans toward
noodle-style groovy '60s-'70s hand traced patterns. The George Risk Industries example I was shown "est l'exception qui confirme la règle." Worthy of framing in a gallery:

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 17:53
by andrewjoy
The electrons are going to crash into the corners!
That is sexy, i always preferred the hand traced with the curves, you gota have curves!
And above that you have some of the super sexy wire loom and plug board stuff from the 50s and 60s...Sexy! To get somewhere to do that now would be ether impossible or crazy expensive.
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 18:02
by snuci
tigpha,
I do love blue PCB boards. it reminds me of my KIM-1. I can't take a pic at work but it looks like this:
It's not the earliest version I have but it is beautiful.
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 18:04
by andrewjoy
With gold plated ceramic ICs, no expense spared. And that Fancy connector , looks almost military grade.
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 19:38
by tigpha
snuci wrote: tigpha, I do love blue PCB boards. it reminds me of my KIM-1.
What a riot of wonderful colours! And curves! Thanks snuci, much appreciated. I wonder if those cobalt-blue PCBs are still obtainable somewhere?
Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 10:29
by andrewjoy
They will be but not with the tin rolled traces , solder mask or nothing nowdays
Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 17:12
by snuci
Muirium wrote: Could use some more pics of the caps, though!
Sorry about that. I need natural light and don't get home early enough to take decent pics any more. I added the key caps pic above at the end.
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 02:30
by livingspeedbump
beautiful board. Thanks for the great tear down and pics!