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A beginner has questions!
Posted: 24 May 2020, 22:51
by EasyK
[EN]
Translated with google translator because my english is not good (sorry)
Have a few questions for the community
Are there PCBs with "ä", "ö", "ü" and "ß" or where "z" and "y" are exchanged. So in short a PCb with DE layout? Does anyone know one or does anyone know if you can set this in the software, I am very new to custom keyboard matter
But I'm looking for a 60% PCB which I can then assemble myself with switches and the rest.
Thanks in advance
Easy K.
[DE]
Hab ein paar fragen an die Community
Gibt es auch PCBs mit "ä", "ö", "ü" und "ß" oder wo "z" und "y" getauscht sind. Also kurz gesagt ein PCb mit DE layout? Kennt da jemand eins oder weiß jemand ob man das in der Software einstellen kann, bin sehr neu in der custom keyboard Materie
Suche aber ein 60% PCB was ich dann selber mit Switches und dem rest zusammen bauen kann.
Vielen Dank im voraus
Easy K.
Re: A beginner has questions!
Posted: 24 May 2020, 23:50
by Findecanor
Welcome to Deskthority!
German layout is not in the PCB. It is indeed all in software. The electronics on the PCB reports the position (number) of each pressed key to the computer, and if you have German selected in your operating system then the operating system would rearrange the input to match German layout.
So in other words, you should be able to get a PCB, install its standard firmware on it (if not already pre-installed) and then just get German layout when you use it.
What is printed on the keys is just what is printed on the keys.
If you would use a configurator program (or web service) for configuring the layout with the firmware then it will display the US-English name of the key. Then you would have to figure out which German-layout key each US-English key corresponds to. Most alphanumeric keys are the same, but for instance [ corresponds to Ü, and Y and Z are swapped, etc.
Re: A beginner has questions!
Posted: 25 May 2020, 00:36
by EasyK
Findecanor wrote: 24 May 2020, 23:50
Welcome to Deskthority!
German layout is not in the PCB. It is indeed all in software. The electronics on the PCB reports the
position (number) of each pressed key to the computer, and if you have German selected in your operating system then the operating system would rearrange the input to match German layout.
So in other words, you should be able to get a PCB, install its
standard firmware on it (if not already pre-installed) and then just get German layout when you use it.
What is printed on the keys is just what is printed on the keys.
If you would use a configurator program (or web service) for configuring the layout with the firmware then it will display the US-English name of the key. Then you would have to figure out which German-layout key each US-English key corresponds to. Most alphanumeric keys are the same, but for instance [ corresponds to Ü, and Y and Z are swapped, etc.
Thank you for your help.
Maybe you have a few websites where I can find PCBs and keycaps. Do I have to consider what when buying switches? or do they fit on any PCB?
Re: A beginner has questions!
Posted: 25 May 2020, 20:08
by kelvinhall05
EasyK wrote: 25 May 2020, 00:36
Findecanor wrote: 24 May 2020, 23:50
Welcome to Deskthority!
German layout is not in the PCB. It is indeed all in software. The electronics on the PCB reports the
position (number) of each pressed key to the computer, and if you have German selected in your operating system then the operating system would rearrange the input to match German layout.
So in other words, you should be able to get a PCB, install its
standard firmware on it (if not already pre-installed) and then just get German layout when you use it.
What is printed on the keys is just what is printed on the keys.
If you would use a configurator program (or web service) for configuring the layout with the firmware then it will display the US-English name of the key. Then you would have to figure out which German-layout key each US-English key corresponds to. Most alphanumeric keys are the same, but for instance [ corresponds to Ü, and Y and Z are swapped, etc.
Thank you for your help.
Maybe you have a few websites where I can find PCBs and keycaps. Do I have to consider what when buying switches? or do they fit on any PCB?
There are many websites where you can buy stuff. Depends a lot on your budget. kbdfans has some good budget stuff and r/mechmarket has a lot of stuff for all budgets.
Most modern switches will fit in most modern PCBs and fit most modern keycaps as basically everything is MX-compatible.