I just hit submit on my post and I see the HHKB-JP just had to come up! I wouldn't advise that board at all. It's hard to find, super expensive, and it's JIS, not ISO. The regular ANSI HHKB types just like any other American layout keyboard, making it really easy to get used to. JIS is a completely different story.swampangel wrote: ↑07 Aug 2019, 14:16The JP layout of the HHKB has an iso-style enter, but also an arrow cluster and a bottom row layout which may or may not suit you https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Profess ... B001KWJTCWvometia wrote: ↑07 Aug 2019, 13:34So it looks like I'm going to have to scurry off and find out what a Poker is! And steal myself an HHKB. I'd probably just be reckless and buy one of they had an ISO-style return, but I never could get used to the horizontal type, even when that's all there was (er, thinking early '80s UK home computer scene rather than an absolute statement).
All those extra keys by the spacebar are there for a reason. And it's nothing to do with the language we type.
I'll certainly never let go of my HHKB. It's by far my most used and my ultimate supremo top number one favourite board! Type-S + Hasu's Bluetooth = sublime perfection.Wazrach wrote: ↑07 Aug 2019, 13:39If you decide you want an HHKB, I'm currently selling a black one with an official PFU vibration-dampening mat and silencing rings to get rid of the harsh upstroke rattle the stock HHKB has. I've had it for 4 months and it's not really for me, even with BKE Redux domes.
The Poker is a popular family of little MX keyboards, roughly equivalent to the HHKB, in form factor at least. The layout isn't quite as good: it's a straight up 60% chop from the general fullsize and TKL layout you're already used to. But they do come in ISO—pretty sure the Ducky Mini did that and there are certainly others—and they're a customiser's paradise. They're common enough they're the de facto standard for 60% keyboards. There's a whole industry out there for aftermarket cases and the like. That's where my Alps64's solid aluminium case came from: it's not even MX, but Hasu made sure to be Poker case compatible.
Seeing as we're all such a bunch of codependents and enablers!, I'd say a Poker or the like is well worth a try sometime. You might be surprised how well 60% handles you. Or then again, maybe not! Love / hate as it is.
That's our whole thing summed up, exactly. Hardware-wise, so much about computers, tablets and all the rest of it just comes down to the binary question: does it work or not? A graphics card is either keeping up or it's failing, and so on. Keyboards are much more analog, and so much more complex, seeing as they interface with these mysterious human creatures outside the machine! Does it work? Oh, it better! But even that's just the start. Keyboards get fuzzy because that's where we are.vometia wrote: ↑07 Aug 2019, 13:34I guess I don't need to explain that to anyone here! Some other people seem flummoxed by my keyboard obsession and I keep trying to explain to them, "you're happy to spend hundreds of quid on a new graphics card every couple of years but you begrudge spending more than a tenner ever on the part of the computer you actually physically interact with...?" I dunno.