On model M plastic membranes (the ones on normal buckling-spring Ms, not the rubber-dome ones), do (or can) the membrane sheets themselves wear out and have to get replaced?
This is assuming normal keyboard usage and no liquid damage, etc., and no broken rivets.
Just wondering.
Model M plastic membranes
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Dell Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech M185 older product run
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring or Cherry MX red
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- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
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Longevity isn’t their primary concern. The general lousiness of Model M compared to Model F is much more pronounced. Those membranes can and usually do work for decades without fail, just as they do in the cheapo rubberdome keyboards where they belong.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Dell Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech M185 older product run
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring or Cherry MX red
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
Capacitive? Yes, that would be the Model F.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Dell Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech M185 older product run
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring or Cherry MX red
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Model F77
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3S
- Favorite switch: Alpaca V2
Yes, plenty of people have done that. Lookup FSSK.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Dell Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech M185 older product run
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring or Cherry MX red
- dcopellino
- Location: Italia - Napoli
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F400 brushed chrome
- Main mouse: Logitech laser wired
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
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Exactly, as i did, following i$ tutorial, you'll get model F's lightness and crispness touch into a model M current layout.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Note that all such Model F upgrades for Ms swap in F flippers. It’s not really the capsense per se* that makes F special, it’s those bigger flippers and the hardness of the PCB they work against.
*I’d argue capsense is the critical factor which sets (my also beloved) Topre apart from regular cheapo rubber dome keyboards. Buckling spring brings a great big tactile event all by itself, which any sensing system can see.
*I’d argue capsense is the critical factor which sets (my also beloved) Topre apart from regular cheapo rubber dome keyboards. Buckling spring brings a great big tactile event all by itself, which any sensing system can see.