"23 Commando" - High profile Military themed keyset Groupbuy

jil_jil32

14 Jul 2013, 00:15

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Group buy for the "23 Commando" keyset - Shipping to You!

- Doubleshot keyset
- Keycap profile: SA family
- Surface option: M - Matte top
- Sculptured keyset: full set with different row profiles
- Colors
Base part: TBN on GAW
Modifier part: TBN on VF






1 - Standard kit (88 keys) - $68.40

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1.1 - Upgrade kit 01 (44 keys) - $41.25

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1.2 - Upgrade kit 02 (23 keys) - $32.40

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2 - Gamer kit (10 keys) - $31.00

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3 - Numpad kit (26 keys) - $26.80

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4 - VL kit (7 keys) - $8.57

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5 - ErgoDox add-on kit (38 keys) - $25

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23 Commando - mockups



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Details of the kits


1 - Standard kit (88 keys)
- The F and J keys are deep dish keys.
- The CAPS & SCRLK keys have pad-printed legends in Green ink color (roughly match ABS-VV color). Those keys also have green lens windows for the LED light.
Base on the final number of orders, I would consider to have a UV curable hard coat applied to top surface pad-printed keys for extending legend life - Military Grade!
- The RETURN, PRINT, PAUSE keys will have pad-printed legends (ENTER, SYSRQ, BREAK respectively) on the front in Yellow ink color (roughly match ABS-YY color).
- All key sizes are correct for this 23 Commando set (such as 2.25x, 2.75x keys etc.)

1.1 - Upgrade kit 01 (44 keys)
- This kit is an add-on of the standard kit. You can order as many as the number of the standard kit you ordered.
- There are homing bump and regular F and J keys.
- There are 1.75x ROW3 left stem stepped CTRL and CAPS
- Also has the 1.75x SHIFT
- 1.5x bottom row CTRL & ALT keys are available

1.2 - Upgrade kit 02 (23 keys)
- This kit is an add-on of the standard kit. You can order as many as the number of the standard kit you ordered.
- Color code of the Yellow on Green caps is YG on VF
- " \ | ", BKSP, DELETE keys are for HHKB layout
- ISO RETURN, 1.25x SHIFT and 2 blank keys are for ISO layout

2 - Gamer kit (10 keys)
- Color codes: TBN on YW
- There will be pad-printed Arrow head legends in Black ink on the front of the WASD cluster.

3 - Numpad kit (26 keys)
- Color code of the Yellow on Green Star key is YG
- ENTER key in ROW3 profile
- The " 5 " keys are available in all 3 kinds: homing bump. deep dish and regular

4 - VL kit (7 keys)
- Vietnamese Lotus kit - SA family ROW3 profile
- Details (left to right):
+ RCS on RDE - Gloss finish
+ YCE on RDA - Gloss finish
+ RDA on RCJ - Gloss finish
+ YCA on RCR - Gloss finish
+ YG on VF - Matte finish
+ RCR on VV - Gloss finish
+ YCH on RA - Gloss finish

5 - ErgoDox add-on kit (38 keys)
+ 4* 2x ROW2 GAW
+ 4* 1x ROW2 GAW
+ 12* 1x ROW4 VF
+ 6* 1x ROW3 VF
+ 10* 1.5x ROW3 VF
+ 2* 1.5x ROW2 GAW


Shipping
Shipping will be invoiced SEPARATELY and will come from mashby after your order has been sorted, packaged and ready for shipping.
We will be using USPS Priority Mail, which provides the following advantages:
- Boxed packaging to protect your order
- Tracking number for ensuring delivery
- $50 insurance for your order
*For any order larger than a small flat-rate box, we plan on using other boxes and ship by weight. Since key caps are light, this can substantially reduce the cost of shipping.
Remember, you won't be charged for shipping fee until your order has been packaged.

Estimated Shipping Costs
The pricing table below is the MAXIMUM shipping charge, could be cheaper at the end, depends on your actual order
Box Size U.S. Can. Inter.
Small Priority Mail Box $6 $20 $24
Medium Priority Mail Box $13 $40 $60
Large Priority Mail Box $17 $53 $78

How Many Keys Fit In A Box?
One set should fit in a Small Priorty Mail box. However, if you order more than one set, then you will more than likely need a Medium box. We expect that large orders will be reserved for vendors orders, like Techkeys, etc.

Additional Fees
Each invoice will include PayPal fees and a $3 handling fee at maximum.

What About Proxies?
We're looking into it, but it depends on the number of orders coming from. Additional PayPal fees and complexity may negate the benefits of having a proxy. We're still examining options though and should we choose to exercise that option, then you'll simply pay less in shipping.


===> After filling the order form, please PM me in case you want to change your shipping information.
===> There will be another Google form just for everyone's shipping information to confirm the address the last time before shipping.
===> We know everyone wants to get the keys timely, safety, and for a fair price. mashby and I will try to provide it.



Notes

- You will receive two invoices. One, from me, for the key caps. The other one, from mashby, for the shipping fee. The invoice for keycaps from me will be sent to everyone after the GB has closed. And you will be charged for shipping fee when your order's ready to ship to you.
- We will prepare some replacements for the missing keys. Keep in mind that those kits has been ordered as pre-sorted and pre-packed kits, so any faulty or missing key is SP's mistake, not our distributor's. So please be patient while we trying to help resolving the problem with your keyset. If anything bad happens to the package while on shipping, we're sorry but can not do anything about it.
- Same as the Valentine GB, there will be no extra set for sale after this GB closed. So please put your order in before it's too late ;) The GB for these Spherical, High profile Military themed keysets, along with all its unique legends will be run one time only - it's NOW!
- I will send invoice through Paypal to everyone, so you need a verified Paypal account to receive, and to pay. Also please check the information carefully before submitting your order. There will be paypal fee added to the price.
- If you want to make changes to your order, just SUBMIT a NEW one with the NEW numbers, also inform me through PM: http://deskthority.net/ucp.php?i=pm&mode=compose&u=1107 that you did it. I will replace your old order by the new one.



Colors

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- Green & Yellow color chips on the top left are VV and YY
- The Yellow legend on the Tri-force key on bottom left are YG
- In the middle, top -> bottom are TBN, VF, GAW
- Color of the key on the right is YW (anyone have this key from the SP crap bag, also have the SP color ring please confirm this for me)



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FAQs


Q. What is SA family profile?

A. SA family profile: high profile, spherical top and sculptured.
In the picture: usual DCS profile on the left, SA profile in the middle, DSA profile on the right

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Q. Why SA family?
A. SA family keycap has high profile like the keycap from old typing machine before the 80's. It goes smoothly with the "old" colors of this set. In addition to the high profile, the SA family keycap is also thick (a lot thicker than regular DCS keycap). It's Military Grade keycap (lol) - it matches the theme of this set very well. The thick keycap makes the sound very different when typing on it. It's just BETTER!

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Q. Do we have full row profiles for this SA family set?
A. YES!!!

The set will have the row profile like this
Esc row - ROW1
~ 1 2 3 row - ROW2
Tab row - ROW3
Caps row - ROW3
Shift row - ROW3
Ctrl row - ROW4

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- Perfect SA set in every aspect of aesthetic: full sizes, full rows, no gap, no wrong profile in one row
- Colemak / Dvorak / Whatever layouts people like this because the main typing area (QWERTYUIOP[]|ASDFGHJKL;'ZXCVBNM,./) is in the same profile
- Main typing area in the same profile, but the function row, the number row (` ~ row) and the bottom row (Ctrl row) still have higher angle profile so it's still more ergonomic than flat profile of DSA keys ^.^



Q. Why Matte top finish?
A. Life of a soldier is tough, so I use rough keys!
Kid. If we go with the Matte finish, so almost every key will have the same finish. Only exceptions are 1.75x and 2.75x ROW3, in Semi-matte finish. You don't want the mixture of gloss keys with matte keys in a set right :v



Q. Will some keys be shorter than usual, such as 2x & 2.5x keys of the SPH Round 4 instead of 2.25x & 2.75x?
A. No. We have full sizes of key for this 23 Commando set. 1x to 7x. If you want something more special, do not hesitate to request.



Q. The Text legends of the mockup are a liltle bit stiff. How are the real legends?
A. The mockups mostly serve one purpose: gives you the better idea of the color scheme and helps you picture the real product easier. Don't believe the mockups too much, try to imagine the final keyset by your colorful mind.
The fact is I don't have the correct font that SP actually use on their SA keys. Even SP said it's very hard for them to make new Text legend looking the same as their old legend's hard copies. So well you should have a look at this photo (in courtesy of megaxpop) to see how the real legends look like (or more here http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round4_SPH):

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Q. So every legend will look like those from SPH Round 4 set?
A. No. I selected several different legends. Such as:
ESC, not ESCAPE
BACKSPACE, not BACK SPACE
CTRL, not CONTROL
etc...

I prefer the short text legends because it make every legend looks uniform in size of font. To have long text fit on the top of a key, sometimes the font size will have to be smaller than usual, makes the key looks out of place.
It's a pity that SP doesn't have the legends PG UP and PG DN so I have to use PAGE UP & PAGE DOWN. Though the font is not different from the others but I'm still thinking about it. If many people want, we might end up have 2 new legends of PG UP and PG DN. I hope so.
And one more good news, the SHIFT legends will be remade. Those who have the SPH Round 4 set will understand this better than me.
Last edited by jil_jil32 on 17 Jan 2014, 10:10, edited 45 times in total.

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Muirium
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14 Jul 2013, 01:12

Nice writeup. That's an explanation of the row profile situation for SA that even a noob like me can understand.

One thing you didn't mention: are these doubleshot? (One picture implies it. Apologies if it's a dumb question.)

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matt3o
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14 Jul 2013, 09:26

SA is very problematic...
jil_jil32 wrote: Image
I would take a hell lot of them only if we go this route (all ALPHA in ROW3)... can I still cancel my order if we go the other way round?
Muirium wrote:One thing you didn't mention: are these doubleshot? (One picture implies it. Apologies if it's a dumb question.)
yes they are ABS double-shot except for the windowed keys that are pad printed.

PS: not a big fan of the color combo... but it's SA so gotta take it.

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7bit

14 Jul 2013, 10:40

Interesting to see how they find more and more tools for SA-family keys ...
:roll:

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dirge

14 Jul 2013, 11:01

As always needs UK Keys :) (2", 3£, '@, #~)

jil_jil32

14 Jul 2013, 13:22

@ Muirium: Yes those are doubleshot keycaps, only the windowed keys have the pad-printed Text legends because the window itself is the first shot of the key.

@ matt3o: Yes just put your order in. After we reach 50 kits ordered, I will post up a vote form for people who joined in the GB to choose the best way to go. After that you still can cancel the order if you're not happy with it ^^
Sorry about the color scheme, I just want to make something look different -_-

@ dirge: If you are interested, please put your order in, and list the keys you want in the Notes section of the form. After we reach a good number of orders and I know about the thing people want, I will aggregate and contact SP for the quotes of special keys.

@7bit: yes I'm happy that they can provide more and more tooling for the SA family...

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matt3o
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14 Jul 2013, 13:30

jil_jil32 wrote:@ matt3o: Yes just put your order in. After we reach 50 kits ordered, I will post up a vote form for people who joined in the GB to choose the best way to go. After that you still can cancel the order if you're not happy with it ^^
that's great thanks!
jil_jil32 wrote:Sorry about the color scheme, I just want to make something look different -_-
you are doing a great job! No reason to be sorry! It's just that I don't like militaresque themes, but it's just me. Your set is super and I'll join right away!

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Muirium
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14 Jul 2013, 13:33

7bit wrote:Interesting to see how they find more and more tools for SA-family keys ...
:roll:
One day, we'll have them all. Either by having every missing one remade, or paying the storage shelf troll all the appropriate fees to rediscover them!

Matteo has a good point about uniform profile making things simpler. I'm into HHKB layout backspace, so maybe it's not such a problem. Could use the 1u shorter right shift in the same add-on pack as the cool military logo keys, though! Kit 1 plus 2 is way overkill for my 60% desires.

Thanks for being responsive to our suggestions.

jil_jil32

15 Jul 2013, 19:13

The more I think about the all-row3-alphas solution, the more I like it hahah :3 It will be a perfect 23 Commando set in appearance if it goes this way!
The all-row3-alphas SA family is nice on a Filco board, eh? :p

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Order more order more!!! ^^

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matt3o
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15 Jul 2013, 20:11

go for it! It's just perfect! :D

jil_jil32

16 Jul 2013, 18:33

More love for this set please ^_______^ we're very close to a Price break for the Upgrade kit 01 and VL kit <3

jil_jil32

20 Jul 2013, 20:16

May I bump this GB thread :D

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matt3o
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20 Jul 2013, 23:48

no you can't! but I can :P

jil_jil32

24 Jul 2013, 22:11

SA keyset here SA keyset here... join with us... you won't regret it later I promise ;)

jil_jil32

29 Jul 2013, 11:43

May I bump this GB thread without getting matt3o's notice :D

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matt3o
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29 Jul 2013, 11:45

what's the status of the GB? Can you post the current tiers/prices? When are you going to finalize this and send invoices?

jil_jil32

29 Jul 2013, 22:54

Yes of course. I always update the price in the 1st post. I will update the shipping cost & info as soon as I have it from the distributing guy.
After we got 75 Standard kits ordered I will consider of sending the invoice. So I could say we are so close to the payment process.


1 - Standard kit (88 keys) - 70 kits ordered
50 kits - $82.70 <- We are here

1.1 - Upgrade kit 01 (44 keys) - 64 kits ordered
50 kits - $46.90 <- We are here

1.2 - Upgrade kit 02 (22 keys) - 31 kits ordered
25 kits - $32.40 <- We are here

2 - Gamer kit (10 keys) - 29 kits ordered
25 kits - $31.00 <- We are here

3 - Numpad kit (26 keys) - 33 kits ordered
25 kits - $37.30 <- We are here

4 - VL kit (7 keys) - 100 kits ordered
100 kits - $8.57 <- We are here

jil_jil32

05 Aug 2013, 20:05

Taking order untill 12-Aug-2013!!! ^^

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t!ng
Awake Sheep

09 Aug 2013, 11:45

Bump!

jil_jil32

11 Aug 2013, 19:29

Price updated!

Keep ordering! ^^

jil_jil32

15 Aug 2013, 10:10

I'm collecting the money now. There will be a Paypal invoice sent to your Paypal address. I will sent invoices in batches of 20-30, so if you have not received the invoice yet, please do not worry. Your Paypal account need to be a verified one.
The invoice this time is just for the keycaps. There will be another invoice for shipping fee later coming from mashby.

Everyone will have 2 days to pay after receiving the invoice. If you can not pay in time, please let me know immediately (through email, PM...) I will cancel your current invoice and resend another one later.

People ordered the ErgoDox kit will receive the invoice after I got the quotes for separate blank keys from SP.

*I also sent everyone an email about this. So if you didn't received any email from me about this Groupbuy, please PM me and give me your correct Paypal email address!

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matt3o
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15 Aug 2013, 12:43

you are doing an exceptional job jil.

jil_jil32

20 Aug 2013, 15:44

Thanks for compliment matt3o ^^



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These guys should check your Paypal email now and pay your invoice asa you see your name in the list please - if you can't PM right away. If anyone see any guy plz do me a favor - remind him:
DUENAH
febriz
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There are some news:
- The price for ErgoDox add-on kit is $25 though we have only 9 orders. I will send ErgoDox people your invoice soon ^^
- We will have PG UP and PG DN legend.

jil_jil32

23 Aug 2013, 20:32

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jil_jil32

27 Aug 2013, 14:47

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jil_jil32

29 Aug 2013, 09:45

Deadline for new order and for payment: SEPTEMBER 9
Every unpaid invoice will be canceled after that.

jil_jil32

07 Sep 2013, 16:25

This is the last call for those unpaid invoices, ONLY 02 more days left to pay (!!) you guys:

febriz

neoezekiel

skuphundaku

codyeatworld

ymsnoms

arong2012a

randrews
And those who adding extra kits please pay as well, thanks!



NEWS & UPDATES

I have some tweaks to the final kits. Don't worry please, I just want to make it better.

1/ Firstly, about the Standard kit

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- You must notice the new legends PG UP and PG DN will be used for this set instead of PAGE UP & PAGE DOWN.
- The SHIFT legends will be re-cut for proper looking purpose (the current ones are not good enough)

2/ Secondly, about the Upgrade kit 01

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- Some minor details of the artworks of symbol keys (23 symbol, commando skull symbol) had been removed so the legends now are doable. I can say every new symbol key is good to go now, the Eagle return key is a bit hard though.

3/ Thirdly, about the Upgrade kit 02

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- I've decided to add the ESC key in ROW2 into the kit thanks to the poll results and the supports of many generous guys here.


=> I need only $75 more so any previous generous guy who can give me a hand please say it :thumb:

jil_jil32

17 Jan 2014, 10:08

(update 17/01/2014) The keyset is going to be shipped from the US distributor.

Some actual photos of the keyset
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Elrick

17 Jan 2014, 10:32

Oh damn jil, they look superb on the mulitcam. Can't wait to get mine, because I've got 2 keyboards itching for these.

If it was anymore militaristic you'll need to front some AK-47's as discreet props for these babies :).

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guilleguillaume

17 Jan 2014, 11:32

It really looks impressive.

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