Capewell layout?

[DerpyDash_xAD]

I started using the Capewell layout, but I have read many times that it should not be used. I very much enjoy the layout and agree with Capewell's ideas as to what make a good layout and as far as I can tell, the recomended replacement does not match with his ideas.

So should I continue using Capewell, use an alternate, or do as he planned and revise the code and use the resultant layout@

[Muirium]

Link?

I'm playing around with non QWERTY layouts too. Colemak is good, but I like Workman's priorities better: less swivelling left and right with the forefingers. Trouble is, I don't like Workman itself…

Think I'm going to have to make my own. Anyone got some good analysis tools? I'd like to optimise for common bi-grams, like Workman does.

[DerpyDash_xAD]

http://www.michaelcapewell.com/projects/keyboard/

Take a look, I love the full stop placement - above the A, replacing the Q on qwerty.

[Muirium]

Looks a lot like Dvorak to me, which in turn looks a fair bit like Qwerty's 19th century rival: Blickensderfer's DHIATENSOR:

Note Dvorak's right hand home row. It's a respin of the Blick. A layout optimised for one of these:


Of course, Dvorak and Capewell are both likely better than Qwerty, which is notoriously suboptimal. But I notice that Capewell's page doesn't have any comparisons to Colemak whatsoever. Colemak's fairly new, but it's already a factory preset built into current operating systems, including even iOS. It's hard to beat, on pure metrics too.

http://www.colemak.com/

As I said, I like Colemak but I don't love it. The placement of S is particularly hard on me (so close!) and words like "the" (of all things) require lateral forefinger movement, which isn't pretty. So that's why I'm looking into Workman.

http://workman.deekayen.net/

Workman's too new to have the following that Colemak does. But the site is very informative and worth a read for the thought that went into it, in any case.

[DerpyDash_xAD]

I'll run the comparison applet on the same texts as the other two, so we have direct comparison.

[DerpyDash_xAD]

For some reason I can't get the same numbers - they are showing consitantly lower, even though I'm using the same applet and project Gutenbergs versions of the books.

[Muirium]

What applet?

I gave the wrong link, the good read about design principles and Workman is this one here:

http://www.workmanlayout.com/blog/

I'm looking to make something a little less radically different from Qwerty on the bottom row. Colemak gets that right. No need to relearn copy/paste etc. But the middle of the home row is where Workman shines.

[DerpyDash_xAD]

The comparisons between layouts were generated with an applet: http://www.michaelcapewell.com/projects ... applet.htm

Workman admins cite as the same version: http://www.workmanlayout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=35

Edit: If anyone can use java, a complete applet with all the layouts would ba amazing. I would do it myself, but I always was horrible at java.

[pietergen]

Some more keyboard layout sites:

http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/
http://mathematicalmulticore.wordpress. ... ayout-2-0/
https://github.com/michaeldickens/Typing
http://forum.colemak.com/
http://patorjk.com/keyboard-layout-analyzer/#/main
http://andong.azurewebsites.net/dvorak/DDvorak.aspx

[jacobolus]

Also see ADNW http://www.adnw.de
http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/the ... tml#p54408
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=406 ... #msg809702