Doubleshots that yellow?
- elecplus
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I found some Alps mount doubleshots, but they yellowed badly. Is that normal? I thought doubleshots were supposed to be better than this?
- chzel
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It's normal, yellowing depends on the composition of the plastic used.
They add bromine to ABS as a flame retardant and when it's exposed to UV it causes yellowing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright
Many manufacturers of old school doubleshots (honeywell, beamsprings, etc) apparently didn't care if you burned alive and used bromine free ABS, so no yellowing.
They add bromine to ABS as a flame retardant and when it's exposed to UV it causes yellowing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright
Many manufacturers of old school doubleshots (honeywell, beamsprings, etc) apparently didn't care if you burned alive and used bromine free ABS, so no yellowing.
- elecplus
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Well in any case, I did not keep them :_)
- Chyros
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Forget about the bromine, it's not very relevant.chzel wrote: It's normal, yellowing depends on the composition of the plastic used.
They add bromine to ABS as a flame retardant and when it's exposed to UV it causes yellowing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright
Many manufacturers of old school doubleshots (honeywell, beamsprings, etc) apparently didn't care if you burned alive and used bromine free ABS, so no yellowing.
I made a previous post in a different topic about the mechanism behind yellowing process in ABS plastic. See below if you're interested.
Chyros wrote: Some more details about the process, for those who are interested. Sorry if I get too technical in the end xD .
ABS is basically a "mixture" of three polymers, those of acrylonitrile, butadiene, and styrene. Of the three, it's the polybutadiene phase that's most vulnerable. Exposure to UV leads to a discolouration of the ABS as well as a considerable loss of impact strength. Once this degradation has started, it can be reversed as well as combated, but will over time always return.
When exposed to UV radiation, the methylene bond in the trans-butadiene structure is photolysed, which yields an allylic radical. This species can then react in several ways, either forming more radicals, or reacting with molecular oxygen to form oxygenated species, such as hydroperoxides, esters, and unsaturated carbonyls. The peroxide species are susceptible to decomposition under the influence of UV to form more radicals, accelerating the process. The carbonyl materials are responsible for the yellowing, and are also capable of engaging in cross-linking reactions with the rubber component of the material, which results in destruction of the elastomeric properties of the material and a concomitant embrittlement and loss of impact strength.
Sauces:
-Piton et al., Polym. Degrad. Stab. 55, 1997
-David et al., Polym. Degrad. Stab. 84, 2004
-Pickett et al., Polym. Degrad. Stab. 85, 2004
-Rajan et al., J. Appl. Polym. Sci. 124, 2012
and others
Once the material has been degraded like this, it has become susceptible to attack by oxygen as well as UV. Hence, even in dark rooms, materials will form which cause yellowing, as well as generate more radicals. If your board is yellowed, you can temporarily make it look nicer, but it will never be fully stable anymore.
(in other words, forget the bromine rubbish :p)