A question about Model Ms

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elecplus

12 Nov 2015, 17:39

Back when I had them NIB, I noted that the legends on the numpad were brown, not black, and I thought that was unusual. I was assured that these legends are supposed to be brown. Now I have some with heavy bold black legends on the numpad. Is this unusual? I am confused!

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Muirium
µ

12 Nov 2015, 17:47

Secondary numpad navigation legends are meant to be brown. Like my NMB:

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But manufacturers cheaped out, of course, and eventually most went all monotone. Which isn't as nice, and I think is pretty generally valued less than the dual tone original style.

andrewjoy

12 Nov 2015, 17:49

That is not unusual at all. Some models used 2 colour printing on the caps , others did not. Someone who it more up on the model M than me would be able to tell you what one came fist.

I am jamming on my 122F at the moment that is rocking XT caps and they are all black legends. My SSK has 2 colour legends for the embedded number pad. My only model M is the fab 102 silver label you sold me and that one had all black as well but it was a later lexmark ( it still feels sweet and has a thick ass backplate so i thin it was re-labled old stock). The other M i had was a IBM UK piece of junk and that too had single colour legends.

It looks however that the original 101 M ( the one with the black AT cable) had 2 colour legends model 1390131

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fohat
Elder Messenger

12 Nov 2015, 17:58

If you ask clickykeyboards.com for a numpad set, they will ask whether you want the secondary legends light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. Personally, I think the lighter ones look nicer than the darker ones, but the dark brown is a pretty rich tone.

I also have sets with blue and orange secondary legends. The blue is really nice, and there are a few other blue pieces, too, such as CapsLock and Tab.

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Chyros

12 Nov 2015, 18:39

fohat wrote: If you ask clickykeyboards.com for a numpad set, they will ask whether you want the secondary legends light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. Personally, I think the lighter ones look nicer than the darker ones, but the dark brown is a pretty rich tone.

I also have sets with blue and orange secondary legends. The blue is really nice, and there are a few other blue pieces, too, such as CapsLock and Tab.
The blue ones are fantastic, I think they predate the brown ones. Really nice-looking. The black ones are the most recent ones I suspect.

andrewjoy

12 Nov 2015, 19:56

Whist they are , my XT caps are blacka nd they pre-date most Ms, but there is black and then there are XT caps.

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keycap

14 Nov 2015, 18:44

My 122 key Model M from Unicomp has blue legends all over the place. They look awesome. It's unfortunate that the keycaps are all shiny now, though (never knew that was even easy to do with PBT, but I suppose the previous owned used it all the time :lol:)

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snuci
Vintage computer guy

17 Nov 2015, 03:43

I have three different styles of Model M numeric keypads for reference:
Early Model M (Jan 1986) with brown legends
Early Model M (Jan 1986) with brown legends
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Middle Model M (February 1990) with gray legends
Middle Model M (February 1990) with gray legends
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Later Model M (Lexmark) with black legends
Later Model M (Lexmark) with black legends
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andrewjoy

17 Nov 2015, 11:27

that 1986 one is amazing , loverly legends
All the best things came from 1986

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snuci
Vintage computer guy

17 Nov 2015, 13:12

One more thing I noticed while taking these pics. The legends on the Print Screen/SysRq are different colors.

For the 1986/1990 keyboard, they have the green SysRq label like this:
Older Green SysRq Labelled Print Screen key
Older Green SysRq Labelled Print Screen key
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For the later Lexmark keyboard, the SysRq label is black.
Newer Black SysRq Labelled Print Screen key
Newer Black SysRq Labelled Print Screen key
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Muirium
µ

17 Nov 2015, 13:22

My SSKs have green SysRq. One of them is a Lexmark, but it definitely has non-original caps, as some are 2-piece while others are 1-piece.

Green SysRq is obviously nicer, and is there on my favourite NMB of course:

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Losing all the secondary colours was a sign of the keyboard carnage to come!

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snuci
Vintage computer guy

17 Nov 2015, 13:36

Never thought to look. The SSK I use at work is an IBM from September 1992. It also has the green SysRq and has one piece key caps. For reference, the num pad legends are gray. It's hard to tell from the pic but the legends printed on the vertical front face are also gray.

Here's a quick pic:
IBM SSK Num pad legends
IBM SSK Num pad legends
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