Your opinion wanted: New hand wired sixty keyboard.

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ideus

29 Jun 2016, 23:55

I will make my first try at hand wiring a keyboard, for it, I was carefully considering some alternatives and I had arrived at the following layout, it will allow me to use one of my vintage sets as well as some new ones. It has been said that a picture worth a thousand words, then, here it is, please let me know what do you think.

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Ratfink

30 Jun 2016, 01:38

I actually like the layout of the PC/XT model F, so one control key looks fine. I use my winkeys quite a bit, so I'd miss those, but you may not. But one shift? If you find that acceptable, some typing lessons are in order! :lol:

Also, where's the Fn key? I hope it's one of those Alt keys. Otherwise you probably don't have an Fn, in which case you're not going to have a good time with that layout.

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cookie

30 Jun 2016, 02:27

I'd probably miss the bottom right shift key a lot.

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ideus

30 Jun 2016, 02:34

You guys have very good points:
For windows I use Ctrl+Esc; for shift, I always use the left shift only, and I agree that some typing lessons may call for a different behavior; but, for now, even when I am still not that fast, I type fast enough for most of my activities. Finally, the right Alt is actually an Fn key, and for Alt Gr, I use Ctrl+Alt.

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cookie

30 Jun 2016, 13:17

To be hones, it's not about speed it's about comfort!
In case I have to type !@#$ or capital letters with my left hand, I find it very exhausting to press shift with the same hand I type the desired character.

I'd sacrifice the dedicated arrows without hesitation for that but it the end you have to decide what you like most :)

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scottc

30 Jun 2016, 13:31

Not the most aesthetically pleasing but you could put a 1U shift on the right side of the up arrow? Or move the arrows 0.25U towards the other keys, then have a 1.25 shift there, and a 2.25 shift on the left?

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ideus

30 Jun 2016, 14:17

cookie wrote: To be hones, it's not about speed it's about comfort!
In case I have to type !@#$ or capital letters with my left hand, I find it very exhausting to press shift with the same hand I type the desired character.

I'd sacrifice the dedicated arrows without hesitation for that but it the end you have to decide what you like most :)
That is still the main aspect in the design of this layout, arrows or regular right side modifiers, again, what you said makes a lot of sense; but, this non-standard design if made of compromises.

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ideus

30 Jun 2016, 14:19

scottc wrote: Not the most aesthetically pleasing but you could put a 1U shift on the right side of the up arrow? Or move the arrows 0.25U towards the other keys, then have a 1.25 shift there, and a 2.25 shift on the left?
That sounds closer to the design of an already available layout by a fellow member at GH:

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scottc

30 Jun 2016, 14:25

Ah yeah, I couldn't remember the name of that one. It looks okay bit not my kind of layout at all. I like 60%, I like 65% (thanks matt3o for converting me), but I don't like whatever this middle-ground is.

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ideus

30 Jun 2016, 14:39

I am typing now in a sixty with no arrows, that I have available using Space FN, but for certain things the dedicated arrows are just the best option. I do not like the TKL, not the over sixty approaches like the Fox, or FC660, so I am here considering a hand wiring, just for the sake of having exactly what I need, that probably will not fit anyone else's requirements, it will be my very own and personal Frankenboard.

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armatus

05 Jul 2016, 08:23

nice board, what do you think about ortholinear, like plank with arrows?

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