Which keyboard size do you prefer?

As always, you've got all the choices and you may modify your votes!

4 x 12
3
2%
5 x 13.5 (Ultra Mini)
2
2%
5 x 15 (HHKB)
20
16%
5 x 16 (like NoPoo, but no function row)
9
7%
6 x 16 (NoPoo!)
7
6%
8 x 16 (Tipro)
1
1%
5 x 17 (SAIL keyboard)
2
2%
6 x 17
1
1%
6 x 18
1
1%
6.5x 18.25 (15+3) (Phantom/Filco Tenkeyless)
14
11%
7 x 18.5 (15+3) (Cherry Tenkeyless)
3
2%
6 x 20 (Symbolics Keyboard)
1
1%
7 x 20
4
3%
5 x 22 (2+15+4) (Model F)
4
3%
6.5x 23 (15+3+4) (Filco 104/105)
3
2%
7 x 23 (15+3+4) (Model M)
2
2%
6 x 24 (Space Cadet)
2
2%
8 x 24 (Tipro 7bit)
1
1%
5 x 25.5 (+2x12) (Cherry G80-2100-2551)
1
1%
10.5 x 25.5 (Cherry G80-9009)
0
No votes
8 x 40 (Tipro kbdfr)
2
2%
Plate mount
14
11%
PCB mount
14
11%
Pointing Stick
9
7%
All switches with LED
6
5%
 
Total votes: 126

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 11:49

Which keyboard size do you prefer?
:-)

This poll is only about the PCB size, not about the layout of the sample keyboards!
:o

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 11:49

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RC-1140

03 Jun 2012, 12:55

PCB size? The PCB on my Model M 122-Key Terminal Boards is pretty small… :geek:

IBM Aircraft Carrier Boards FTW!

rodtang

03 Jun 2012, 13:07

Can someone tell me what board has 4x12? It seems kinda small...

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Maarten

03 Jun 2012, 13:14

5x14 here 8-)

Voted 5x13.5 as its the closest thing.

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 13:17

rodtang wrote:Can someone tell me what board has 4x12? It seems kinda small...
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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 13:19

RC-1140 wrote:PCB size? The PCB on my Model M 122-Key Terminal Boards is pretty small… :geek:

IBM Aircraft Carrier Boards FTW!
I mean the PCB size where the switches would be placed on.

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kint

03 Jun 2012, 13:27

voted 7x20 having an ~130 key in mind. This I would love. Out of existing ones I'ld say 7x18, 104 key like the cherry 1800.

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 16:00

kint wrote:voted 7x20 having an ~130 key in mind. This I would love. Out of existing ones I'ld say 7x18, 104 key like the cherry 1800.
The 7x20 would be my favourite (plus a numpad). How would your layout look like?

Findecanor

03 Jun 2012, 16:00

2 × (5×7 + 1×4)

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off

03 Jun 2012, 16:05

Findecanor wrote:2 × (5×7 + 1×4)
Ey you don't have that yet! (plus it's not an option here :P)

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 16:06

Findecanor wrote:2 × (5×7 + 1×4)
OK, let's see:

A split keyboard with 5 rows and 7 columns, plus a function row with 4 keys?

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off

03 Jun 2012, 16:06

hm, maybe you do- it is not an ergodox on second thought...


*edit; then again, if you cut two from the main pcb and move that to the 1x4 which you cut as well, it just might be ;)
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RC-1140

03 Jun 2012, 16:17

7bit wrote:
RC-1140 wrote:PCB size? The PCB on my Model M 122-Key Terminal Boards is pretty small… :geek:

IBM Aircraft Carrier Boards FTW!
I mean the PCB size where the switches would be placed on.
Don't you think I don't know this? I just might have used the wrong smiley to mark my statement as ironic... Interesting. Normally I am the one who doesn't get it if you use sarcasm or irony...

But nevermind. I would really love to try a Neo on 7bit layout once, but I would love to have it on an IBM 122-Key Terminal board. The bigger and the more keys the keyboard has the better imho. Tipros might have 122 Keys as well, but they're too small. Honestly I don't get why somebody would want to sacrifice his numpad only to have the mouse closer to the keyboard. I don't use my mouse that often anyway.

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 16:20

RC-1140 wrote:
7bit wrote:
RC-1140 wrote:PCB size? The PCB on my Model M 122-Key Terminal Boards is pretty small… :geek:

IBM Aircraft Carrier Boards FTW!
I mean the PCB size where the switches would be placed on.
Don't you think I don't know this? I just might have used the wrong smiley to mark my statement as ironic... Interesting. Normally I am the one who doesn't get it if you use sarcasm or irony...

But nevermind. I would really love to try a Neo on 7bit layout once, but I would love to have it on an IBM 122-Key Terminal board. The bigger and the more keys the keyboard has the better imho. Tipros might have 122 Keys as well, but they're too small. Honestly I don't get why somebody would want to sacrifice his numpad only to have the mouse closer to the keyboard. I don't use my mouse that often anyway.
Tipro, small?

Just attach 2 numbads, one left, one right!

Or 8x16 modules to both sides and beat kbdfr by 8 units!

Findecanor

03 Jun 2012, 17:00

off wrote:
Findecanor wrote:2 × (5×7 + 1×4)
Ey you don't have that yet!
Only as an ugly prototype. :(

And I post it because it wasn't among the available options.
Other than that, I would not mind a 5 × 18.5. "Tenkeyless", but I almost never use function keys.

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off

03 Jun 2012, 17:08

Findecanor wrote:
off wrote:
Findecanor wrote:2 × (5×7 + 1×4)
Ey you don't have that yet!
Only as an ugly prototype. :(
Pics?
Is it a prototype from clay or actually functional?
findecanor wrote:And I post it because it wasn't among the available options.
Touché!

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7bit

03 Jun 2012, 18:46

Seems to be HHKB, platemounted, with LEDs is the favourite!

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fossala
Elite +1

03 Jun 2012, 19:18

HHKB FTW :-)

cactux

03 Jun 2012, 23:20

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Acanthophis

03 Jun 2012, 23:56

Who provdies me with free samples of different keyboard sizes so that I'm no longer a keyboard size noob and therefore can vote in this poll? :twisted:

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captain

04 Jun 2012, 02:03

I am coming to like the Pure better than any other layout I have, mostly for use with the MacBook and iPad, but I'll stick with a TKL Filco for the desktop.

Pure = 5x15?
TKL = 7x19? (gotta account for the gaps)

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

04 Jun 2012, 07:51

Of course I voted for the 8x40 Tipro :lol:

But I think I will shortly convert it into a somewhat smaller 8x32, i.e. the basis unit (staggered 8x16) with a matrix 8x8 on either side. And then I will connect additional Tipros depending on the specific task I have to perform.

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7bit

04 Jun 2012, 10:52

Seems 5x15 will be the winner!

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huttala

04 Jun 2012, 11:12

I'm tourn between the Noppoo and the Filco TKL, love em both but I think I like the red switches on my Quick fire rapid better then the Noppoo's brown switches.

So what I really need to do is to desolder all the switches from the noppoo and switch them to reds to know which board I like the best. :(

Anyone wanna trade? =D

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7bit

04 Jun 2012, 11:16

This is about PCB sizes, not layout, nor switches!

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Peter

04 Jun 2012, 11:34

7x20 Access-IS AKC127 http://www.access-is.com/pdf/AKC127_Pro ... al_MSR.pdf

388 x 165 mm without MSR for a keyboard with 127 programmable keys, that's just slightly larger than a 10-keyless in
a minimalist-case .

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off

04 Jun 2012, 14:23

kbdfr wrote:8x40->8x8+8x16+8x16+8x8
..he's the TiproMan!

awesome plan.

JBert

04 Jun 2012, 14:44

5x15 (size of a Poker) is the ideal gaming / laptop keyboard for me, if you can squash in an Fn key and a RAlt.

For typing / data entry, the model F layout works great and yet doesn't take up too much space (if you move the cursor keys to an Fn layer, that is).

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kint

04 Jun 2012, 16:04

Peter wrote:7x20 Access-IS... .
nice, thanks for posting. :)
7bit wrote:...The 7x20 would be my favourite (plus a numpad). How would your layout look like?
I haven't thought about the exact layout yet - and when I just did I realized it would much rather be 7x22, depending on how tight its packed. :|

Image
I just don't like the unused space between the F row and the numrow, would place shortcuts (red)/Macros (violet) there, and would like to have a single Macro column (blue) on the left. Apart from that its just media keys (green) and some system keys (orange). Pic up/down moved for keybased web surfing. Pretty much the occasional gaming- web/common used function layout, nothing geeky.
If I'ld really have to pack it in 7x20, perhaps something like this:
Image

edit:
Main concern is just to use the space of the case as efficient as possible in regard to the PCB.

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