The crusher wins again

Engicoder · 23 Oct 2015, 22:35

I purchased a very nice, new in box NTC-6151EN yesterday on eBay. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281835864325) At least I thought I had, until I received a PayPal refund and this note from the seller:

Hello, I regret to tell you that the keyboard was mistakenly send to the recycler this morning. I bought a pallet of computers and accessories Monday . I was starting to list a few and send the rest to the scraper. My son took the whole pallet this morning. Sorry. I will cancel order and send you a full refund.

Lost another one....

Muirium · 23 Oct 2015, 22:40

Were they blue Alps? That'd be a real shame. Can't see dick in your ebay link any more.

mr_a500 · 23 Oct 2015, 22:42

It would be a little disturbing if you could see dick.

Muirium · 23 Oct 2015, 22:44

Meh, it is the internet after all.

Engicoder · 23 Oct 2015, 22:46

Muirium wrote: Were they blue Alps? That'd be a real shame. Can't see dick in your ebay link any more.

I don't know. I was hopeful, but I will tell myself they were OA2's to ease my mourning.

seebart · 23 Oct 2015, 22:47

Jeez what a moron. I'd love to own the NTC-6151 in real good shape. Unused Alps are pure gold.

I own that board with blue Alps, but it's in bad shape.

Engicoder · 23 Oct 2015, 22:48

Here is a working link http://www.ebay.com/itm/281835864325?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

REVENGE · 25 Oct 2015, 01:01

Ask for contact info for the recycler, or otherwise contact some of the recyclers local to him.

Muirium · 25 Oct 2015, 14:03

Very true, there still may be time to save the board yet. Unlikely it arrived straight into the crusher's maw. It'll be in a big pile somewhere, waiting its turn.

seebart · 25 Oct 2015, 14:33

Could also be the case that the seller suddenly "discovered" that his keyobard could be worth a lot more. The accidental crusher story seems a little strange. But who knows.

Ray · 25 Oct 2015, 17:59

well, I didn't think about the seller actually wanting a better deal, but it may be the case.

If this would happen to me here in germany, I wouldn't let him get away that easy. You had a deal and "Oops, sorry!" doesn't make that deal null and void here. It is his job to get it back from the recycler, not your's.
I wouldn't be happy with just getting my money back. I would certainly hand this to ebay if I wouldn't get the board, since it was a potentially rare and sought after board in good condition, aparrantly NIB. Its value was higher, it was yours and he gave it to the recycler!

Engicoder · 25 Oct 2015, 18:57

Ray wrote: well, I didn't think about the seller actually wanting a better deal, but it may be the case.

If this would happen to me here in germany, I wouldn't let him get away that easy. You had a deal and "Oops, sorry!" doesn't make that deal null and void here. It is his job to get it back from the recycler, not your's.
I wouldn't be happy with just getting my money back. I would certainly hand this to ebay if I wouldn't get the board, since it was a potentially rare and sought after board in good condition, aparrantly NIB. Its value was higher, it was yours and he gave it to the recycler!

I may just be old, but that isn't how I operate. I tend to think people are generally good and that mistakes are made. I have made similar mistakes and appreciate people who do not react in an adversarial manner. My money was returned promptly, so I am satisfied. I have no way of knowing the details of the situation, so I will trust that he is being honest with me. If he is not, that's on his conscience; mine is clear.

002 · 25 Oct 2015, 22:18

I was also stung badly by the crusher not too long ago. My good buddy at Topre was going to send me a box of assorted OEM keyboards for nothing but the boss-man said they have to be destroyed

This was the haul:

Muirium · 25 Oct 2015, 22:19

Ouch. Nice haul it would have been too… that sixty! The Sony News is pretty fancy, and the slim ones in the second pic. I wouldn't say no to any of the bunch, that's for sure.

Aw booger.

seebart · 25 Oct 2015, 22:30

002 wrote: I was also stung badly by the crusher not too long ago. My good buddy at Topre was going to send me a box of assorted OEM keyboards for nothing but the boss-man said they have to be destroyed

God, I can't look at it.

002 · 25 Oct 2015, 22:41

Yeah I think I broke into a cold sweat just as they were crushed thousands of kilometres away

I actually have some of those boards already. The compact and numpad in the top-left of the first pic, the Hi-Pro in the bottom-left of the top pic, the Hitachi and Sony News boards. The others I've never seen before, but I suspect that the bottom-right one in the top pic might be an NEC PC-98 board of some sort. Oh well -- I'm sure an opportunity like this will come up again...right?...RIGHT?

ettasian · 25 Oct 2015, 22:58

Shit like this should be illegal. But why would even you want to destroy something so bad? Are there some fines your company has to pay if you don't recycle a bunch of keyboards every couple of years?

andrewjoy · 26 Oct 2015, 00:22

Top picture top left, now that's my kind of miniature board ! Just look at that space bar!

Muirium · 26 Oct 2015, 00:27

Do you actually miss a spacebar when it's less than 8 units long?

andrewjoy · 26 Oct 2015, 00:34

I like to be able to reach it no matter where my hands are on the keyboard !

mr_a500 · 26 Oct 2015, 12:59

Whatever happened to Half-Space and Power-Space? "This is the time for POWER-space!"

Half space power space.JPG

Muirium · 26 Oct 2015, 13:03

You're going to have to up your game a bit if you want the Best Photo DTA…

What's up with the two-tone black keys? Weird choice.

mr_a500 · 26 Oct 2015, 13:08

That's not my photo. I wish I had a typewriter with Power-Space. I could use a Power-Space right about now. (...just to show my power)

seebart · 26 Oct 2015, 13:09

Beautiful piece of machinery, interesting layout, lousy picture! OK good not your shot mr_a500.

Ray · 26 Oct 2015, 17:33

Engicoder wrote: I may just be old, but that isn't how I operate. I tend to think people are generally good and that mistakes are made. I have made similar mistakes and appreciate people who do not react in an adversarial manner. My money was returned promptly, so I am satisfied. I have no way of knowing the details of the situation, so I will trust that he is being honest with me. If he is not, that's on his conscience; mine is clear.

well, I wouldn't just assume he is a bad guy. He probably just made a mistake, everybody does once in a while, me not excluded. And in his case I would offer a refund just like he did. But if in this case you as the customer said you still wanted the board, I would go the extra mile and call the recycler, go there, and grab the board you wanted. Because - you know - I made a mistake.
I don't assume everyone is the bad guy, but I assume half of them are as lazy as me at first. I see the full refund as the cheap way out for him.
But as long as you are satisfied, do it your way and stay easy.

E3E · 31 Oct 2015, 09:21

Engicoder wrote: I purchased a very nice, new in box NTC-6151EN yesterday on eBay. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281835864325) At least I thought I had, until I received a PayPal refund and this note from the seller:

Hello, I regret to tell you that the keyboard was mistakenly send to the recycler this morning. I bought a pallet of computers and accessories Monday . I was starting to list a few and send the rest to the scraper. My son took the whole pallet this morning. Sorry. I will cancel order and send you a full refund.

Lost another one....

I was wondering where that one went! I had an NTC 6151N that I bricked in the past, so naturally, seeing any 6151s pop up piques my interest. I have already gained a new love in the Fame board I have, but I still appreciate the NTCs I see popping up.

I thought it was mighty strange that I couldn't find it anymore after a couple of days, even after performing a completed listing search.

Wow, I never would have imagined it suffered such a fate. NIB and everything. For shame!

Would its fate have been different if I bought it instead, or would I be the one having to deal with the news?

Sorry to hear about this though. Poor NTC

002 wrote: I was also stung badly by the crusher not too long ago. My good buddy at Topre was going to send me a box of assorted OEM keyboards for nothing but the boss-man said they have to be destroyed

This was the haul:
TOPRE MADNESS

Wow. How far back does the Topre switch go? These seem really vintage and talk about unique. That was very nice of your friend to offer all of that! Sorry to hear that it all went to the crusher.