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- Daniel Beardsmore (Thu, 19 Oct 2017 00:01:02 +0200) I bought a couple of brand new arcade buttons with Omron B2R-G1 switches in, but B2R is long since obsolete. The same is possibly true of MA series. With any luck, we will find out.
- rymut (Thu, 19 Oct 2017 00:37:47 +0200) Daniel Beardsmore wrote:You can see here that both keycap mounts were used, which makes me wonder if they're using up a load of old stockThat might be the case Seimitsu LS-32 joystick was updated this year (2017) to Seimitsu LS-32 2017 or LS-300. Change was due to switching switches from Panasonic AM51662C5N (discontinued on March 31, 2015) to Omron V series button. It took almost 2 years for Seimitsu to use old stock of the switches, so Crown buttons being in smaller demand might be trying to use up old stock of Futaba.
- Daniel Beardsmore (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 22:33:25 +0200) Thanks for the heads up — I'll pick up a couple of those, and I'll definitely follow up with the manufacturer. Those switches have a 5 M lifetime apparently, rather than 50 M in the spec I found, or 10 M in the Sejin keyboard manual I found.You can see here that both keycap mounts were used, which makes me wonder if they're using up a load of old stock:http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/...ussion/p55The Sanwa and Seimitsu buttons use those laws of physics–defying switches, including Tokai MM9 series and the equivalent Hori and Sanwa parts. They're still discrete switches, but none of them are the keyboard type. MM9 is the only series presently known to have solder terminals suitable for putting into a keyboard PCB.
- rymut (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:34:18 +0200) Recently I bought some Samducksa Crown SDB-201 Screw In Arcade Buttons that uses some kind of Futaba switches.20171018_151741.jpgI thought that it uses a dedicated switch like Sanwa and Seimitsu, or uses Futaba mechanism inside dedicated mold (some Chinese arcade button knockoffs uses ALPS-clone switches with different mold). When I opened the button I was surprised to find out that it uses Futaba MA with MX mount variant steam, since I recently bought OBS-MX arcade button mod (with uses original cherry mx keyboard switches) 20171018_150417.jpg20171018_150651.jpgButton can be easily disassembled and Futaba MA (MX plate mount variant) can be extracted from the arcade button. It is easy way (but costly one) to get the new replacement for Futaba MA keyboard.20171018_151741.jpg
- Daniel Beardsmore (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:42:40 +0200) I've just recreated the heading level fixes. I've put the images into <gallery> tags as side images don't work well with very short sections. I don't have my UK wording to hand, but the UK PC and Mac layouts are different, so I've dropped in a couple of images, albeit of sub-optimal quality. I'm not yet certain about the best way to illustrate the page, but small images of keyboards require a load of clicking to view anything — a set of diagrams like you see on Wikipedia may be preferable, that focus solely on the 60% area where all the differences can be found. SVG is good, but text in SVG in MediaWiki is a living nightmare.I also need to determine for certain whether French and Belgian AZERTY layouts differ, as those were not circularly referenced. (The circular references are now gone, as that was silly.)
- Darkshado (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:41 +0200) I've changed the text and added two photos for Canada. I'm not positive on the market share each layout has outside of Québec.
- Daniel Beardsmore (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 01:24:05 +0200) I've already got a draft of that page, but with the ANSI/ISO/JIS section merged in, which it seems needs to come out and be relocated to the physical layouts page. I suspect I won't remember/get around to looking at the page any time soon though.
- depletedvespene (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 01:14:36 +0200) My teeny-tiny little brain is already forming a few sentences here and there that may fit the bill. I'll let them... ferment... inside my thick skull and will try to get something written this weekend.
- Daniel Beardsmore (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 23:58:03 +0200) depletedvespene wrote:Yes. IMHO, there should be first a general chapter on ANSI vs. ISO vs. JIS, then one with each manufacturer's approach to each of those.I'm not quite sure how to approach it. I'll have to give it more thought.
- depletedvespene (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:50:35 +0200) Daniel Beardsmore wrote:ANSI vs ISO and ANSI vs JIS should be on the same page, I feel.………However, the ANSI vs ISO and ANSI vs JIS pages should maybe be rolled into Physical keyboard layout, although I'm not wholly sure how yet.Yes. IMHO, there should be first a general chapter on ANSI vs. ISO vs. JIS, then one with each manufacturer's approach to each of those.Daniel Beardsmore wrote:The Region-specific layouts page needs a lot of work anyway, but I'm not sure what the best direction is to take these pages.Keep them as a separate page, but separating each layout strictly over language, referencing ANSI/ISO/JIS secondarily.I can't guarantee any available time before Saturday, so at worst I'll put over some work on the page on this coming weekend.